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Re: Great Cages for Ball Pythons But Shipped From Canada
 Originally Posted by Giftbearer
I am in the process of comparing quality and prices on Ball Pythons and all the stuff that goes with them and after looking at tons of Youtube videos have noticed that the friendliest and most active Ball Pythons seem to be the ones kept in the visible type enclosures. The ones kept in racks seem to shut down because their environment is not stimulating enough, and they have less time to get used to the owner because the snake only sees you when you open the drawer. While convenient and space-saving, I would rather be able to watch my snakes and let them see me through the glass so they won't see me as a threat.
Your assumption are mainly coming from the fact that you do not own a BP yet and you are already starting to compare your snake to other animals such as birds or dog who needs human contact, socialization and stimulation my advice is research the animal you are about to acquire before rushing into buying an enclosure that might not be suitable for your animal.
 Originally Posted by Giftbearer
I've seen some great videos of Ball Pythons that are quite inquisitive. I'm about ready to go to sleep but sometime I'll post some links. One woman lets her snake move around in this obstacle course she made for it and it's really amazing.
YouTube is not the place where I would start my research when it comes to setting up proper environment for your snake, the highlighted part above just proves it.
You are getting a snake a BP in particular bare that in mind they are not social they tolerate being handled, handling is for your enjoyment not theirs, they need to be provided with security even if a cage is what you are set on remember that the enclosure needs to grow with your snake if you get a large enclosure and an hatching you will be doomed to have issues.
Again key word is RESEARCH and there are plenty of great stickies on this forum that will help you provide your animal optimum husbandry which will lead to a successful first time owner experience.
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Everything that has been said here covers most of what I wanted to say. As someone who is fairly new to keeping BPs, I can tell you that this forum is extremely helpful in coming to understand what your snake needs. A lot of people here have been keeping BPs for a long time, and many people have different experiences, all helpful.
I will say, though, just from my personal experience; I keep my snakes in a rack, and there are some who are friendly and some who would rather be left alone. I think this depends more on the snake than the amount of time they get to see you. BPs like to hide, and once you know how to keep them happy, you can get to know their personalities. Good luck!
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I've had my BP for about 5 weeks now, and for the first few days he went mental in his aquarium regardless of the wall coverings (fake plants) and hides. Husbandry was within standards (a pain in the ass mind you), but until I lined the back/sides with cardboard (now 1/2" building sheathing R2.5).
Once he is up to size this summer I'll probably opt for an Animal Plastics T8 with a divider (excuse to get another snake, maybe a mojave female for long term?)
Also one thing I have noticed with most is that the second you put a ball python down, they move towards somewhere they can hide. That does not necessarily mean that they are constantly trying to get away while being held, but they seek privacy over exposure instinctively. That being said, if they like to hide, it is unlikely they will enjoy being exposed at all times. I sure wouldn't like my house to have clear walls.
Hello...

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If you would like a tank instead of a tub then definetly get one that opens in the front and is blacked out on the other sides like animal plastics or boaphile. I used to have both my bps in tanks and recently switched them over to tubs. I have noticed very little, if any, change in their temperment. In the wild they spend 90% of their time in rodent burrows or termite mounds. The only time they move is to thermo regulate or go find food and take over another rodent burrow. (except for mating season i would imagine )Typically I wouldnt imagine a bp wanting to eat a meal out in the open bc while theyre eating they would be extremely vulnerable to predators. This is why eating in a tub vs a glass aquarium makes them more willing to eat sometimes. At the very least, like i said before, I would really get a blacked out enclosure. After switching from aquariums i wont go back, at least not for bps. Im far from
an expert but these are just my personal experiences combined with the knowledge i have absorbed from some of the brilliant folks here.
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I live in Canada and have never seen these cages in store east or west. These tanks are beautiful but I am curious, is an uth enough heat for these snakes? If so I will be getting one as it won't be quite as expensive for shipping. The locking feature is a great idea too as my son is just starting to walk and explore everything.
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Re: Great Cages for Ball Pythons But Shipped From Canada
 Originally Posted by SludgeRoach
I live in Canada and have never seen these cages in store east or west. These tanks are beautiful but I am curious, is an uth enough heat for these snakes? If so I will be getting one as it won't be quite as expensive for shipping. The locking feature is a great idea too as my son is just starting to walk and explore everything.
Plastic cages are best heated with Flexwatt (which is a type of UTH)
These clear cages look nice but aren't best for the animal, I have plastic cages that have glass doors on the front, but the rest is black PVC. This makes the animal feel more secure.
(already posted this picture in this thread, but I'll put it up again)
~Aaron
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what Aaron said... you might look at sly plastics the site is a mess but the enclosures are great! Cornells world make some killer ones as well.
http://www.slyplastics.com/
http://www.cornelsworld.com/
Both Sylvain and Greg are wonderful to deal with I'd highly recommend them both.
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Wow, don't know how I missed that picture. Those are gorgeous enclosures! RRE also does all black with clear door but no way of lighting the inside. The tanks in that pic look a lot more pricy, how much did you pay? Also shipping and all that to Canada could be a lot more costly.
Ideally the top tank from the pic is what I want.
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Re: Great Cages for Ball Pythons But Shipped From Canada
 Originally Posted by SludgeRoach
Wow, don't know how I missed that picture. Those are gorgeous enclosures! RRE also does all black with clear door but no way of lighting the inside. The tanks in that pic look a lot more pricy, how much did you pay? Also shipping and all that to Canada could be a lot more costly.
Ideally the top tank from the pic is what I want.
The top cage is a T8 made by Animal Plastics, they cost $150 plus shipping/accessories. The cage dimensions are 48 inches x 24 inches x 12 inches.
Animal Plastics is based in Iowa, and I live in Florida. I paid $45 for shipping (they come dissembled so the shipping costs less) I.m not sure about shipping to Canada, but if you give them a call they will be happy to help you out.
Here is their website and phone number:
http://www.animalplastics.com/
(515) 276-7387
Last edited by The Serpent Merchant; 02-02-2012 at 06:41 PM.
~Aaron
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1.0 Siberian Husky (Picard)
0.1 German Shepherd/Lab Mix (Jadzia)
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I say definitely go with animal plastics or a boaphile cage. Overall they are cheaper and just as good if not better built. I dont have a cage but I have a boaphile rack and I love it. It comes standard with belly heat already installed. Eventually I'll need a large cage for my Red Tail and I'll be going with animal plastics or boaphile for that cage. RRE look great, but a LITTLE overpriced in my opinion. You'll get much more bang for your buck by going with AP or Boaphile.
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