From the perspective of a layman - someone who is not familiar with snakes or exotics in general as pets - Wayne comes across very confident, very polished and very believable.
Very brutal to listen to from the standpoint of a reptile keeper. Wayne may be a tool, but to the casual listener, he is a believable tool who is in his element when it comes to this type of format.
When Andrew would try to make a point, Wayne would very deftly counter and parry it.
Again, when you look at this through the eyes of someone not in the hobby, it was not a banner day for the keeprs of exotic pets.