I keep hearing people saying that guys that spend so much on an animal got screwed cause they are worth a fraction of the value now. So let me respond from experience as one of those guys. I bought my very first spider in like 2003 for close to 20k from rob at spiderballs.net. that spider was 500 grams. By breeding season i got him up to 850 grams. I bred to 5 females. 3 out of the 5 took. Out of those 3 i got 6.4 spiders. I sold all the males for 15k each and the girls for 18k each. You do the math. Enough said. Look what people have to understand coming into the hobby where combo and triple morphs are common place is that we didnt use to have it like that. The spider when it came out to the public was the big killer morph. This was a time when the holt grail white snake hadnt been produced yet and pieds were over 10k and we didnt have nearly what you see now. We all knew spiders were a single codom morph and knew it would soon start dropping. The key with any animal is get in at the infancy and milk it for all its worth. As soon as everyone gets their hands on an animal the prices drop. It just is what it is. No one should be surprised how quick the spiders dropped. Thos of us working with them at the time knew they would and if you look at todays trends the same is happening on alot of animals. Look at mojaves, caramels, pieds, albinos etc. All dropping. Look at combos like lemon blasts, bumble bees, sterlings etc. All dropping. It doesnt matter what ya do or what ya like they will always drop as long as their is more supply then demand.