Vote for BP.Net for the 2013 Forum of the Year! Click here for more info.

» Site Navigation

» Home
 > FAQ

» Online Users: 662

2 members and 660 guests
Most users ever online was 47,180, 07-16-2025 at 05:30 PM.

» Today's Birthdays

None

» Stats

Members: 75,912
Threads: 249,117
Posts: 2,572,191
Top Poster: JLC (31,651)
Welcome to our newest member, coda
Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    BPnet Veteran
    Join Date
    12-01-2011
    Posts
    790
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 147 Times in 81 Posts

    bottom level of rack adjustments

    I'm sure you guys all had the problem with the bottom level of the rack always being colder than the rest. In my rack I built, the levels are pretty much all even temperature except the bottom. Even the second lowest level isn't colder than the rest above it, just the bottom one. The top level is slightly colder but to no significance.

    I would like to correct this, and not waste the level. The rack is closed on two sides left and right, and the front is obviously open to let the tub slide out. The back is also open, and just stoppers to stop the tubs from sliding back too much.

    What I did was I closed off the back of the lowest level with some aluminium sheeting. It seemed to help a little bit when I measured it at first but still not enough, but now it's again back to what it was before for some reason.

    Anything else I can try other than having a separately wired heating system for just that level?

  2. #2
    BPnet Lifer Kodieh's Avatar
    Join Date
    01-05-2012
    Location
    Stillwater, OK
    Posts
    3,410
    Thanks
    2,097
    Thanked 1,432 Times in 920 Posts

    Re: bottom level of rack adjustments

    You could try closing that shelf in on the sides and back, depending on your wiring. But, I think that the easiest thing to do here even though it's a pain/not cost effective is to just heat it separately OR rewire it with different flex watt; say two strips of 4"?

  3. #3
    BPnet Veteran adamsky27's Avatar
    Join Date
    08-12-2011
    Location
    Southern Indiana
    Posts
    740
    Thanks
    563
    Thanked 285 Times in 195 Posts
    I hope you get some good answers, I also have a rack like this. In my case its the bottom two shelves which are pretty much useless right now. Both the sides and the back are enclosed as well.

  4. #4
    BPnet Veteran pigfat's Avatar
    Join Date
    09-26-2011
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Posts
    1,189
    Thanks
    554
    Thanked 315 Times in 245 Posts
    Images: 10
    If it sets up off the ground any, get you a sheet of styrafoam insulation and put it under the bottom drawer. Then cut another piece and put it on the back side as well. I got mine at my local hardware store and it was a 4'x8' sheet but it was only $7. You may get lucky and get a piece thats broken for a discount, my store didn't have any broken pieces. I did this last night after getting my first rack and noticing that it was cooler than the rest.
    -Joe


    1.0 100% Het. Albino
    1.0 Pastel
    0.1 Fire
    1.0 Pinstripe
    1.0 Purple Albino Retic

  5. #5
    BPnet Veteran
    Join Date
    12-01-2011
    Posts
    790
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 147 Times in 81 Posts

    Re: bottom level of rack adjustments

    The left and right sides are closed anyway for all levels. Only front and back are open. I already covered the back side like I said. Not sure if I am using the right material though, I used aluminium sheeting.

    Also, it is raised off the floor as it has wheels. Maybe I add something under it.

    I am certainly not going to rewire the whole thing. I may consider putting in a back heat for that level only, but not sure then how to control it with the thermostat being that level would be just different from everything else. Right now the thermostat probe is on a middle level taped to the heat tape directly.

    OH wait, I just had an idea, since it is raised off the floor, what if I add a flexwatt directly under the wood at the bottom of the shelf? MAy be easier to put in, but still don't know how to control it with the same thermostat. If I have to rewire everything with a new thermostat for just that level I may just leave it empty.
    Last edited by hungba; 01-27-2012 at 12:28 PM.

  6. #6
    BPnet Senior Member Royal Hijinx's Avatar
    Join Date
    12-01-2011
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Posts
    3,842
    Thanks
    1,120
    Thanked 1,989 Times in 1,155 Posts
    If you add secondary heat, it needs a separate thermostat. I would insulate the back with wood or styrofoam first, as the aluminum sheeting may not be thick enough. And possibly styrofoam on the bottom since it is up off the ground.

    What is the temp difference in the bottom drawer?

  7. #7
    BPnet Veteran
    Join Date
    12-01-2011
    Posts
    790
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 147 Times in 81 Posts

    Re: bottom level of rack adjustments

    Quote Originally Posted by jinx667 View Post
    If you add secondary heat, it needs a separate thermostat. I would insulate the back with wood or styrofoam first, as the aluminum sheeting may not be thick enough. And possibly styrofoam on the bottom since it is up off the ground.

    What is the temp difference in the bottom drawer?
    Other shelves are around 90, and that one is about 84 85.

    Even if I add back heat, I don't know how a separate thermostat would work as there would be two elements working together. Might as well have it completely separately heated, and actually, if that's the case, then perhaps it's better to just forget it and just leave it empty. Much cheaper to get another tub and build a level on top than to rewire everything and buy an extra thermostat for one tub.

    I'll try the styrofoam but that's the extent I can go with it I guess.

    By the way, why does insulating the bottom help? The wood there is already 1 inch thick. Is it because the floor is cold?
    Last edited by hungba; 01-27-2012 at 12:50 PM.

  8. #8
    BPnet Veteran JohnNJ's Avatar
    Join Date
    10-11-2008
    Posts
    1,010
    Thanks
    88
    Thanked 235 Times in 163 Posts
    Images: 1
    I built a platform with wheels and placed the rack on it. It keeps it off the cold floor. It's cooler at that level for sure. You could get a small heater and keep it low so it doesn't make the room hot but raises the temps at the bottom of the rack.

  9. #9
    BPnet Senior Member Royal Hijinx's Avatar
    Join Date
    12-01-2011
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Posts
    3,842
    Thanks
    1,120
    Thanked 1,989 Times in 1,155 Posts
    Insulating the bottom can't hurt in this case

  10. #10
    BPnet Senior Member Evenstar's Avatar
    Join Date
    05-02-2010
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    3,378
    Thanks
    1,097
    Thanked 1,951 Times in 1,357 Posts
    Images: 16

    Re: bottom level of rack adjustments

    Quote Originally Posted by pigfat View Post
    If it sets up off the ground any, get you a sheet of styrafoam insulation and put it under the bottom drawer. Then cut another piece and put it on the back side as well. I got mine at my local hardware store and it was a 4'x8' sheet but it was only $7. You may get lucky and get a piece thats broken for a discount, my store didn't have any broken pieces. I did this last night after getting my first rack and noticing that it was cooler than the rest.
    This is absolutely right. The aluminum sheeting you're currently using is not the right material and really doesn't offer any insulation. The styrofoam will. Use it on the back and the bottom. I would also cut a couple of strips and use it on the sides of the rack as well just where the bottom level is. You'll be surprised how much that will help.

    Also, you mentioned it was on wheels, but is there a chance you can remove the wheels on the rack itself and build a higher platform (with wheels) that it can sit on? If you can raise the rack off the floor by even one level, that should really help solve the problem.
    ~ Kali
    www.facebook.com/kaliopereptiles

    Check out my collection:
    Do you?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.1