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Re: molting, or dead
 Originally Posted by LGray23
Honestly, I don't think I'm qualified enough to make that judgement. I mean, you can wait to make sure it's not molting, but I'm afraid if it isn't molting then waiting could be lethal. I also don't know how an ICU would affect it if it is molting  I really hope someone more educated with T's chimes in...I'll text a few experts and ask them...
thanks!
spooky
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is it showing any signs of movement? it could possibly be a molt issue, hopefully whatever it is doesn't end being fatal.
-Chris
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Spooky, I spoke to one of the most knowledgeable T people I know and we agree that you should try the ICU. It says it can work in as little as one day, but if you see improvement I suggest leaving it in for another day or two. Good luck!!!  
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To be completely honest, it doesn't look good to me. Like LGray said, it looks like it may be close to death, whether by natural or molt related complications.
I agree with LGray, try an ICU if you're seeing movement at least a little bit. If it's only been 3-4 weeks since the last molt I highly doubt it's another molt coming on.
Did you use any products near the enclosure? Try different substrate? Anything at all out of the ordinary?
I hope he pulls through for you.
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Re: molting, or dead
 Originally Posted by cmz1234
is it showing any signs of movement? it could possibly be a molt issue, hopefully whatever it is doesn't end being fatal.
no movement....
spooky
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Re: molting, or dead
 Originally Posted by Alexandra V
To be completely honest, it doesn't look good to me. Like LGray said, it looks like it may be close to death, whether by natural or molt related complications.
I agree with LGray, try an ICU if you're seeing movement at least a little bit. If it's only been 3-4 weeks since the last molt I highly doubt it's another molt coming on.
Did you use any products near the enclosure? Try different substrate? Anything at all out of the ordinary?
I hope he pulls through for you. 
nothing has changed,,, i have 2 other s right beside of him.....
thanks
spooky
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Re: molting, or dead
 Originally Posted by Alexandra V
To be completely honest, it doesn't look good to me. Like LGray said, it looks like it may be close to death, whether by natural or molt related complications.
I agree with LGray, try an ICU if you're seeing movement at least a little bit. If it's only been 3-4 weeks since the last molt I highly doubt it's another molt coming on.
Did you use any products near the enclosure? Try different substrate? Anything at all out of the ordinary?
I hope he pulls through for you. 
^^^^^^ the most knowledgeable person I know lol.
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Re: molting, or dead
 Originally Posted by LGray23
thanks for your help! so im going to put it in the ICU,, so im asuming that i should put it in belly down?????? i dont understand it,, my substrate is moist,, there is available water, and food......
so my ICU consist of a small tupperware thingie with a wet paper towl in the bottom,, but with no standing water.. i have punched about 5 holes in it with a a tack.. does that sound right?
thanks again for going out of your way.
jason
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No problem, I know how stressful this is 
That ICU sounds fine, I'd be careful picking it up. Last thing you want is the first signs of life to be getting bit by an OBT. I'd put it in belly down and hope for the best. Keep us updated
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Re: molting, or dead
poor little thing.
heres the ICU, and a pic of the spider.. if this IS just a molt, will it be OK if its on its belly?


thanks
spooky
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