Humane way to euthanize rats?

[satomi325]

Ironically, one of the recognized ways to euthanize pinks are through freezing. They have a low oxygen affinity and resist hypoxia, so CO2 may not work if you don't leave them in longer than older rats. The low oxygen affinity is due to being able to tolerate mom sitting on them.

And yes. There are recognized euthanasia procedures. Many non recognized ways are illegal and/or dubbed to be animal cruelty. Of course all this can be subjected, but there is an 'official' veterinary approved list out there

[mr.spooky]

Lmao. This thread is seriouslly funny. There really is a guidline of accepted practices to humanely killing a rat? I mean come on. The most humane way of killing anything is sudden death. Quick painless done. The needle they stick a dog with to put it down hurts more then sudden death. Drowning a rat? So your not worried about the amount of water it swallows and fills in its lungs then having to defrost that? Not to mention the added drainage and mess during defrost. Setting up a gas chamber or screw around with dry ice etc. Really? Just smack the friggin thing on the head and be done with it. Quick, sudden, bam, done. But i do love when a thread spirals out of control so i cant wait for ideas of tiny electric chairs or kevorkians death machine

yes there is. do some homework.
spooky

[snake lab]

Because I raise my snakes to breed and dont want to run the risk of injury. Thats why I prekill, simple as that.

Ive been breeding since the 90s and have only had one injury from prey. Rooster spurred a retic. Dont ask lol long time ago very stupid. The way i feed is simple. I offer, if they dont hit right away then i remove and offer again later. I never leave em in the tubs unattended.. simple as that

[snake lab]

yes there is. do some homework.
spooky

Lol i dont need to do homework on how to kill a rat quickly. Sometimes overthinking a situation is not necessary

[satomi325]

Because I raise my snakes to breed and dont want to run the risk of injury. Thats why I prekill, simple as that.

To avoid injury w/ live prey, you can feed smaller and more frequent than larger and less often.
For example, feeding weanlings or small rats. They are helpless and harmless.

[mr.spooky]

Escuzie
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ght=euthanasia
It is fairly common. As a matter of fact, this is actually the preferred method of killing rabbits for human consumption. When you gas, and the rat suffocates, it releases lots of lactic acid which makes the meat taste bitter. Can you please enlighten me as to why cervical dislocation is okay for mice but not for rats? They happen to have very similar anatomy.

sure. to start with, iv had more than 8 years in the lab animal field, dealing with thousands of mice and rats... but if that isn't enough,,,,,


Standard Euthanasia Methods for Commonly Used Species

Below are a set of standard acceptable euthanasia methods. You may cut and paste them into the Animal Care and Use Protocol (ACUP) form, section 6C.1). Please contact the IACUC or RAR veterinary staff if you have any questions about these methods or would like training in the use of these methods.



Rodents (Mice, Rats, Gerbils, Hamsters, Guinea Pigs, and Voles)

Carbon dioxide (CO2) To effect
Sodium Pentobarbital 100 or > mg/kg IV, IP
Commercial Euthanasia Solution (Sodium pentobarbital 390 mg + sodium phenytoin 50 mg/ml) (e.g. Beuthanasia®, Euthasol®, Fatal-Plus®, Somlethal®) 0.22 ml/kg IV, IP (~86 mg/kg pentobarbital)
Decapitation under anesthesia (anesthesia details must be specified in ACUP)
Cervical dislocation under anesthesia (anesthesia details must be specified in ACUP) .
spooky

[mr.spooky]

Lol i dont need to do homework on how to kill a rat quickly. Sometimes overthinking a situation is not necessary

spooky

[snake lab]

Spooky. Just a side bar real quick. Since you said youve been in the lab maybe you can help me out. Whats the brand name for the stainless rodent tubs. The ones i used to use along time ago arent made anymore. I want to get a couple dozen to raise up some asf colonies and i dont want to put those chewin lil jokers in my racks.

[satomi325]

Escuzie
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ght=euthanasia
It is fairly common. As a matter of fact, this is actually the preferred method of killing rabbits for human consumption. When you gas, and the rat suffocates, it releases lots of lactic acid which makes the meat taste bitter.

I too know many who euthanize their food rabbits w/ cervical dislocation. However, I don't think a snake cares if the meat tastes bitter. The outside of the rat isn't going to taste like the inside of a rat. Whether or not snakes have taste buds, the rat is already in it's stomach before any lactic acidic muscle is exposed. Also there is the chance that somebody doesn't do the procedure correctly on the first try. I.E, not pulling hard enough to break the neck and hurting the animal.

sure. to start with, iv had more than 8 years in the lab animal field, dealing with thousands of mice and rats... but if that isn't enough,,,,,


Standard Euthanasia Methods for Commonly Used Species

Below are a set of standard acceptable euthanasia methods. You may cut and paste them into the Animal Care and Use Protocol (ACUP) form, section 6C.1). Please contact the IACUC or RAR veterinary staff if you have any questions about these methods or would like training in the use of these methods.



Rodents (Mice, Rats, Gerbils, Hamsters, Guinea Pigs, and Voles)

Carbon dioxide (CO2) To effect
Sodium Pentobarbital 100 or > mg/kg IV, IP
Commercial Euthanasia Solution (Sodium pentobarbital 390 mg + sodium phenytoin 50 mg/ml) (e.g. Beuthanasia®, Euthasol®, Fatal-Plus®, Somlethal®) 0.22 ml/kg IV, IP (~86 mg/kg pentobarbital)
Decapitation under anesthesia (anesthesia details must be specified in ACUP)
Cervical dislocation under anesthesia (anesthesia details must be specified in ACUP) .
spooky

I currently work in a lab where we euthanize animals daily. Different labs have different euthanasia protocols, but they're all along the same lines to this.

[mr.spooky]

Spooky. Just a side bar real quick. Since you said youve been in the lab maybe you can help me out. Whats the brand name for the stainless rodent tubs. The ones i used to use along time ago arent made anymore. I want to get a couple dozen to raise up some asf colonies and i dont want to put those chewin lil jokers in my racks.

we never used the stainless... it seemed like what we used at the university was something called "Z something or the other" they were autoclaveable... its been a few years sence i was in lab animal.
ill try to find them....
spooky