Quote Originally Posted by majorleaguereptiles View Post
My toffee doesn't look like my albinos...

We will see what toffinos produce this year, should help give us all an understanding where the project is going. I believe a toffino/candino (toffee/candy x albino) is a visual allelic combo, that when reproduced will pass on 50%ph toffee and 50%ph albino, and not MELD like some theories. BUT who knows, it might MELD and create a toffee that produces toffees. Either way it's not as dramatic as some people have made it seem. Last I checked my co-doms are compatible with all my snakes in my collection. Some people just need to get a grip.
Sorry, but it is a problem. Comparing it to co-doms isn't accurate.

With all other recessives, you need both the male *and* the female to carry the same recessive gene. With a rare mutation, getting a pair of snakes carrying the gene isn't easy, or cheap. Early last year, pairs of het toffees were going for around $10,000. That's quite an investment.

Now, if the toffee gene fuses into the albino gene to make a toffee, then we have a huge problem. Someone who invested $10k into their pair of het toffees will produce the exact same animals as someone who invested half that into a male het toffee and an albino.

The people who invested the $10k (or much more for visual toffees/candies), trusting the founders of this project, are rightfully upset because they feel their investment might end up being lost. *ESPECIALLY* since the founders of the projects (Peter Kahl and Craig Stewart) knew about the albino compatibility before it went public and failed to mention it to people who were interested in buying into the project.

That being said, recent pictures of a toffino surfaced a short while ago and it appears they might look quite different than full blooded toffees. The lavender coloration wasn't coming in nearly as strong at the age and size as pure toffees/candies.

For the record, I don't believe the toffino is pure toffee. I believe it's a double het albino/toffee. This seasons' breedings should verify the theory.