Live food...why? Honestly & with facts!

[Homegrownscales]

Are you saying intent means nothing? No way, it means a hell of a lot. It is the crossing line between what is abject animal cruelty and what isn't..

I think intent means alot. If you are just throwing animals to other animals just to kill them yes that's an issue. If you snake needs to eat and you watch it and you happen to enjoy it no. The snake needs to eat.

If someone had the intention feeding live purely on the basis that they get their jollies out of it, then they should not be doing it. In fact... they should not even be owning pets if they enjoy causing and watching other animals suffer. Whether the same thing happens to the mouse or not isn't really the issue, it's if the person has malicious intent. And you're saying that doesn't matter because the mouse dies anyway??.

How is it malicious intent if the snake needs to eat. Look I doubt anyone on here is feeding live just to see the snake torture a mouse. And really the prey is dispatched rather quickly. And i also doubt the people on this site are the ones on YT making these snuff films as you call them. Yet though I look at it as nature. You must also not beleive in hunting. I don't like hunting for sport but I do beleive that if an animal is going to give its life that animal should be used for food. It's should Guve back life and purpose. That is the only reason I'm ok with folks having a head of a buck on their wall. My first question is always did you eat it?
The live and ft rats do this. They have purpose.

Sorry, but if people like to watch other animals in pain then they're being sadistic. I can't really explain this any more easier.

Ya If you like to watch animals in pain that's sadistic. Whom is saying they like that?

I'd like to know what kind of parasite can survive the freezing process. The latter can easily be controlled - can you say the same for a live, unpredictable animal?

Tape worm eggs. Also if the prey isn't frozen right I'm sure other parasites can survive as well. But I've read more than 1 thread in this forum. Hint search tape worm. About members whom have only fed frozen some how have tape worms in their balls.
What I can control is the size of the prey. Weanlings- what I feed- haven't really developed the aggressiveness as a jumbo. Weanlings and mediums are more curious than anything. They really have no idea what hits them. But like I said if they do get caught up the wrong way I Hve my hemostats right in my back pocket. Snakes are predators. They aren't stupid. But as a responsible person that cares about my collection I am very aware of what's going on during feedkn time.

Of course it makes it worse.

If you're killing them for pleasure, that indicates a malicious mindset. Wanting to cause pain to another animal and getting pleasure from it is far worse than not getting pleasure from it and being indifferent.



I'd recommend taking a look at the forum thread I linked. Those instances were not "days or weeks"... a mouse has sharp enough teeth to take out an eye. In an instant. It has happened before. Just because it never happened with you doesn't mean it never will, and doesn't mean it is not an unnecessary risk.



You can tell that to the people who had to pay expensive vet bills because a rat or mouse struck and took out an eye, or left a deep wound that would become infected.

And this is exactly why I don't buy any of these "convenience issues". Doing it for entertainment is flat out disgusting and should not be encouraged. If your snake is perfectly capable of taking f/t, then there's really no justification to feed it live unless you think a minute convenience outweighs the danger to the snake (and the suffering of the prey animal).

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