Quote Originally Posted by Gavin View Post
Ok, I'm only going to say this one: shut up.

I was having a good discussion with a couple of members here, then you sprout up with this strawman. I never, ever stated that my opinion is better than any one else's. Why do I care? Because I'm a human being that dislikes pointless suffering in a controlled situation, and dislikes putting pets at risk.

If my sympathy for feeder animals and disdain to some of the reasons of live feeding offends you... or you think that somehow makes me self-righteous... then grow up. Really.



Never said anything? I've given you the quote as to why I called him an idiot. I don't care if he's friggen Einstein, that comment had a hint of malice about it. Converting f/t to live... why? What reason would you do this for? It makes zero sense and it was idiotic... sorry I didn't sugarcoat it for you.



You've contributed absolutely nothing in terms of a retort - instead taking potshots. I actually agreed with some of the live feeders on here on particular points. Oh, I accept it fine... that doesn't mean I have to agree with it. Or like it for that matter. If such a forthright honesty offends you... well... build a bridge...
Me take potshots, never. And please, keep it civil. You just don't like the fact unlike other people I call you out. I can't stand people who do what you're doing. You never stated your opinion is above ours yes, BUT you keep arguing trying to make our opinions look bad.

Now to you, I'm going to go feed my snakes some nice plump live rats.

You can moan all you want, you can throw a hissy fit, but seriously, stop taking peoples post apart and grow up and accept it. I never stated I feed live for pleasure and I read this ENTIRE thread and saw no one do it either. You are the one using a "straw-man" defense as you like to call it.

I accept the fact you don't like us using live, that's YOUR opinion, but don't preach to us about how it's bad. You're just resembling someone else.

Oh.. and I wouldn't say the conversation you've been having with everyone else was good.. Unless you call preaching good. But that's your opinion. As stated..

Oh yeah. I KNOW you stated the quote Jerry made. YOU didn't read what I said, I said "he never said anything" You know, to defend himself. But you had to jump on that horse and start whipping it.

So what? He converted a few to live. I converted 1 myself. Do I have sympathy? Of course not, why? Because I have 1 that eats F/T, so why should I keep him on it, when my rest eat live?

You can preach and preach all you want, but I don't SUGARCOAT either, You got your opinion, and I have mine.

So like I said. Deal with it. I mean seriously, it's not like 90% of the stuff you're saying hasn't been brought up in this thread already.