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    BPnet Veteran Chuckels's Avatar
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    I myself, LOVE, Champagnes, G-stripes, & Clowns. I bought a Champagne male about 3 months ago, and paid a pretty penny for him. For me though, it's not for $$$. I genuinely love all of my animals. I love watching the miracle of life happen right before my eyes. I have about 70 chickens as well and love watching them hatch too. I honestly don't care if all of my babies come out normals, as long as their healthy babies, I will still love them regardless of what they're worth.

    I'd say that Clown Combos are becoming the big hype more and more as the seasons go on. There are so many combos that haven't been made yet. Spider is ...ehh... wobble. I love spider combos too, but watching there heads wobble breaks my heart.

    Honestly, like the others said, get something that YOU love. Don't be a conformist and go with what people are snatching off of the shelves. As long as you give 110%, provide proper housing, husbandry, and feeding, your guaranteed to succeed.

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    Thanks everyone!
    I do love snakes, and I didn't mean to make it sound like I was only in for it because of the money, because that's definitely not it. I would be 10000000% fine with not making any money off of the babies, I would do it just because I love BP's. I just wanted to know if there was any morph specifics that people with a lot of BP knowledge have that I don't know about. I just started doing research on morphs very recently, so I really don't know much at all. I like knowing everyones opinions on the morphs they like, and if there's any certain morphs that are a no-no.

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    I personally went for Pieds. I'm a silly little college student, so I was only able to afford a pair of 100% Het Pieds, but it was what I wanted - not the market. By the time these babies are old enough to breed, who knows - Pieds could be cheaper than pastels.

    If I were in a position to buy more morphs, or multi-gene morphs, I'd go for Albinos, Spiders, Piebalds and Pinstripes.

    Albinos - Someone above already outlined the same reasons I'd have for doing Albinos - Pretty much everybody recognizes them, and I don't see them ever going "Out of style" - Plus - they're epic looking. They are my next personal investment.

    Spiders - They are adorable on their own - but along with Albinos - you can breed them with Pieds and eventually make Spieds - the name itself makes me want to produce some

    Piebalds - Mix this with the other two and - SHINYYYY.

    Pinstripes - I haven't seen a single one of these that wasn't fantastic looking.
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    Re: Most sought after, and most unwanted morphs

    Quote Originally Posted by SeeTheCityLights View Post
    Thanks everyone!
    I do love snakes, and I didn't mean to make it sound like I was only in for it because of the money, because that's definitely not it. I would be 10000000% fine with not making any money off of the babies, I would do it just because I love BP's. I just wanted to know if there was any morph specifics that people with a lot of BP knowledge have that I don't know about. I just started doing research on morphs very recently, so I really don't know much at all. I like knowing everyones opinions on the morphs they like, and if there's any certain morphs that are a no-no.
    Some people choose not to breed spiders because they have a neurological condition called a "wobble." Other people choose not to breed caramel albinos because they can have a genetic defect that causes spine kinking. Some cinnamons can have an issue called "duck billing" where the snout is flared out like a duck's bill. Right now it appears as though desert females have fertility/growth issues, but it's a fairly new morph, so people are still working with them.

    Those are the four I can think of off the top of my head.
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    1.0 Hypo 100% Het Leopard/66% Het Albino (Darcy)
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    Re: Most sought after, and most unwanted morphs

    Quote Originally Posted by SeeTheCityLights View Post
    I like knowing everyones opinions on the morphs they like, and if there's any certain morphs that are a no-no.
    I don't think any morph is a no-no...as more people are breeding and more of the basic morphs are continually produced, they may be harder to sell. But then again, the ball python hobby is growing, and there are more people coming into it that will buy those morphs, being as they are very affordable. And if it comes down to it, if you have problems selling your stock, there's always someone who won't have so much trouble selling it that will buy them up from you...of course you won't get the price you would like to should you go that route. Point being, however you go about it, it's highly unlikely you'll be sitting on a huge pile of snakes and not be able to move them one way or another.

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    I went with the BEL complex for the most part. But that is what I like. I will have a Banana Enchi one day though.....

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    I personally love cinnamons and most other morphs you can pair them with create cool offspring. Cinnamons with pastels, pins, mojaves, lessers and butters all make amazing combos imo. Also the super cinnamon is awesome too!
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    Re: Most sought after, and most unwanted morphs

    Enchi's and female mojaves are in high demand in the uk.
    I picked up a nice 600g female enchi for £375, I was offered £1200 a week later.
    I didn't sell though, she's gorgeous.
    Personally, I want a sugar and a champagne. I'm gonna wait a tad longer, as champ prices seem to be coming down a bit recently.
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    I picked up an enchi but i plan on picking up 1 recessive female, and 1 male possibly enchi. Then i will have a breeding group of 1 male enchi and my females: enchi, killerbee, pinstripe, and that unknown recessive . Im nit a fan of pieds, but enchi piedsmare sweet! I hope to produce some enchi pied combos in the future just because i HOPEA they look awesome!!!
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    Piebalds and albinos are favorites. Spiders also sell fast. Even though I didn't produce any this year, I had people asking for them anyhow! You will never have trouble selling a female pastel, but you may have a hard time selling the males.

    Orange ghosts, surprisingly, don't seem to be in high demand. I have no idea why, they're spectacularly beautiful, particularly in person. Orange ghost combos are another story.

    Womas have ups and downs. There are a lot of misconceptions about them, perhaps, and also a lot of ugly ones out there, which people think are representative of the morph, so they don't look harder.

    I've sold out of babies every year so far, and have only a handful left now--chances are, they'll be sold before I have more eggs in the incubators, just as they did last year.

    I've had a surprisingly difficult time selling lessers this year, but I think it was just the bad luck of LOTS of people producing lessers as well, this year, and I produced more of them than any other morph.

    At this stage, I seem to be selling the lowest end animals first--the normals and het males are all gone, to people who wanted pets. Apparently, word is getting around that pet stores aren't fantastic places to buy pet ball pythons, so folks are looking for local breeders to get them from. So, even normals are selling well.

    Still, my advice if you want to get into breeding for a reasonably stable return, is get yourself a pied male, and some het pied girls.
    Pied has held a high price better than virtually any other morph, and it drops less than the vast majority each year.
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