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    Have concern's about substrate consumption and feeding ritual

    Hey all,
    At the beggining of my snake keeping adventure. I've been under the impression that I should take out my snakes out of there home's. And, to put them in a seperate container for feeding. To lessen the feeding strikes when I try to handle them.
    But, now I don't do that at least not with my larger constrictor's. I do put my two normal bp's in a seperate bin for food. I own a male purple albino reticulated python and two granite yellow anacondas 1.1.
    I watched a youtube video and was told by other keeper's. That it is better to keep the tic and the annies in there enclosure for feeding? Because, once they get to the 8' mark and up? That it will be to much work to take them out, and that it is not safe to be handling a large snake when it's in feeding mode? Make's since. And, so I should start this feeding process when there young so they understand better. And, when I want to just handle them normally? That I should open there tub, rub there head and sides with a snook hook. And, rubbing on the head is suppose to snap them out of feeding mode?
    So, far so good my retic doesn't mind his head being touched. The annies didn't like it at first but don't seem to care anymore.
    What do you guy's think about feeding within the enclosure especially when the snake is for example? 15' 300 lbs
    Since, I've been feeding the tic and annies in there tub's? I am concerned about the substrate being stuck to the f/t rat's? And, what to do or how to identify if the substrate get's caught in there mouth's?
    I just finished watching my retic eat a small rat. The rat had a few pieces of aspen bedding glued to it's body. But, as the retic was swallowing? I noticed that at each motion the strand of aspen moved forward. Looking like it wouldn't be consumed. When my tic was down to the tip of the tail only? He had a few aspen bedding strand's in his mouth.
    When this happen's do snakes spit out the substrate,wipe there mouth's or push out the leftover bedding with there tongue? Or, do they just gulp down the substrate for dessert? I know my snakes consume some of the debri that collect's on the rat's when they constrict it. I want to know if there is any health concern's for consuming it? I know also that in the wild the wild snakes have to deal with dirt also.
    What do you guy's think about your bp's and other constrictor's consuming substrate as they swallow there rodent's? TY Gerrad

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    I don't worry about it at all. My take is, if they can digest bones they can digest pieces of substrate.

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    Re: Have concern's about substrate consumption and feeding ritual

    My BPs all eat in their enclosures with no issue.
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    I'm thinking the next time I feed the retic, I'll make a little open clear area in his tub. That way when does take the rat? Maybe he'll stay in the cleared aspen bedding area?

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    This should be in the "giant pythons" section since it's mainly on giant snakes. But, my advice would to feed them all in the enclosure, since cage aggression is a myth. Don't worry about them ingesting aspen, worse comes to worse if there's a piece stuck in the mouth you just open their mouths and remove it with tweezers. I've only had to do this for my boa twice.
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    Could always lay some newspaper down over your loose substrate so the aspen doesnt stick onto the rodent. Also just make sure the rat is completely dry, and worst comes to worst, eating a bit of substrate isnt too big of a deal. My lesser has eaten a bunch of aspen by mistake but shes completely healthy.
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    Yea, I'm going to put the f/t rat's in baggies first before I submerge to thaw. I'm obviously not drying them off enough.

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    Mine eat in their tubs unless I find something offensive in the tub when I go to feed them. In that case they eat in a spare plastic tote while I'm attending to their mess.

    I'm way too lazy to pull snakes out to feed them unless there is something I have to do which would require more effort if I just worked around them.

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    Re: Have concern's about substrate consumption and feeding ritual

    Quote Originally Posted by Gbusiness View Post
    Hey all,
    At the beggining of my snake keeping adventure. I've been under the impression that I should take out my snakes out of there home's. And, to put them in a seperate container for feeding. To lessen the feeding strikes when I try to handle them.
    But, now I don't do that at least not with my larger constrictor's. I do put my two normal bp's in a seperate bin for food. I own a male purple albino reticulated python and two granite yellow anacondas 1.1.
    I watched a youtube video and was told by other keeper's. That it is better to keep the tic and the annies in there enclosure for feeding? Because, once they get to the 8' mark and up? That it will be to much work to take them out, and that it is not safe to be handling a large snake when it's in feeding mode? Make's since. And, so I should start this feeding process when there young so they understand better. And, when I want to just handle them normally? That I should open there tub, rub there head and sides with a snook hook. And, rubbing on the head is suppose to snap them out of feeding mode?
    So, far so good my retic doesn't mind his head being touched. The annies didn't like it at first but don't seem to care anymore.
    What do you guy's think about feeding within the enclosure especially when the snake is for example? 15' 300 lbs
    Since, I've been feeding the tic and annies in there tub's? I am concerned about the substrate being stuck to the f/t rat's? And, what to do or how to identify if the substrate get's caught in there mouth's?
    I just finished watching my retic eat a small rat. The rat had a few pieces of aspen bedding glued to it's body. But, as the retic was swallowing? I noticed that at each motion the strand of aspen moved forward. Looking like it wouldn't be consumed. When my tic was down to the tip of the tail only? He had a few aspen bedding strand's in his mouth.
    When this happen's do snakes spit out the substrate,wipe there mouth's or push out the leftover bedding with there tongue? Or, do they just gulp down the substrate for dessert? I know my snakes consume some of the debri that collect's on the rat's when they constrict it. I want to know if there is any health concern's for consuming it? I know also that in the wild the wild snakes have to deal with dirt also.
    What do you guy's think about your bp's and other constrictor's consuming substrate as they swallow there rodent's? TY Gerrad
    Lot of question marks in that post.

    Bottom line:

    Feed in the cage. Don't worry about the substrate.

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