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    May I preach to the choir for a moment?

    In the attempt to find out whether or not my guy is a bcc or a bci I have been pissed off. I emailed the source of my little guy and got a curt response. It was like I was bothering him. I totally understand that he didn't have a ton of info but a blanket response of "Columbian" when I inquired about whether or not he is a bcc Guyana really bothers me. Geeze... Thanks dude. That didn't answer my question. When it comes to these guys it's important to know what you can. Do I intend to breed? Absolutely not but the care for a bcc is more specific than a bci from further north. They need higher humidity, seem to like temps on the lower side, fed a bit differently, tend to be larger, etc. All of this seems to be pretty important. A bci can be 2-4' smaller than a bcc. This distinction seems awfully important to me. Ugh. You would think that he would appreciate my attempt to gather info to provide the best care possible.
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    Post a pic, I'll tell you if he's a BCC or BCI.
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    Lol There's tons in my other thread.

    Head shape


    Body shape and a good visual of his saddles. Some are peaked.





    The consensus seems to be that at very least there is a very strong bcc influence. I've seen a few different terms tossed around.
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    Oh yes... He goes through DRASTIC color changes. He can go from really light, almost totally grey in appearance to flaming pink with grey markings.
    Ange'... A wife and a mom to seven trouble makers

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    Definitely a BCI The saddles aren't the right shape for a BCC.

    Maybe a mix since I do see a couple very slight peaks, either way I'd treat it as a BCI, the saddles just don't scream BCC at me in any way.

    Edit: Have you considered posting the picture on redtailboa.net? I'm almost positive they could give you a better idea.
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    Thanks hon! I appreciate all opinions. And yeah.. then there's those that have confirmed bcc's without the peaks. I don't think I'll ever know for sure. Even bcc experts aren't sure.
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    I have, I think? Lol. I'm on another forum too. They are the ones that are damn sure there's a very strong bcc influence. They never said what lead the
    To believe that. Something about the bubbles in the saddles and a few other things.
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    I guess as he grows up you'll start to get a better idea. Those red tails don't stay vibrant red like that forever if they are BCI. I'm leaning more towards BCI mainly because BCCs are much much more expensive than BCIs, and BCIs are much much more common than BCCs, and then the saddles. Keep us updated with pics, I don't think the temp difference is too much between the two so I wouldn't beat yourself up over it, it'll get exhausting lol
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    Re: May I preach to the choir for a moment?

    Quote Originally Posted by LGray23 View Post
    I guess as he grows up you'll start to get a better idea. Those red tails don't stay vibrant red like that forever if they are BCI. I'm leaning more towards BCI mainly because BCCs are much much more expensive than BCIs, and BCIs are much much more common than BCCs, and then the saddles.
    Tis true. Only time my tell at this point. I was hoping for some sort of answer so I can plan for his permanent enclosure but I think I am going to have to err on the side of caution and go with an expandable enclosure just in case. Cost... this guy and his other tank mates came from the same guy. He ends up with snakes that are impounded, adoptions, given to him to sell, etc. This guy came from a "breeder" in Seattle from his pet snake. Of course there's no contact info because the guy moved.

    Quote Originally Posted by LGray23 View Post
    Keep us updated with pics, I don't think the temp difference is too much between the two so I wouldn't beat yourself up over it, it'll get exhausting lol
    Will do and tis also true! He seems to be doing well so I try not to stress too much.
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