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    Re: RED ALERT: Stop Federal Python BAN!

    Got this in my e-mail and sent it right away.

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    Re: RED ALERT: Stop Federal Python BAN!

    If anyone thinks that this doesn't apply to them, because they don't own one of "The 9", think about it. The first eight snakes listed are specific animals. Boa Constrictor is not a specific name, but a sub-species that contains 10 more snakes. Now the list suddenly increases from "The 9" to "The 19". Here they are:

    1) Boa Constrictor Constrictor (BCC)
    2) Boa Constrictor Imperator (BCI)
    3) Boa Constrictor Amarali
    4) Boa Constrictor Longicauda
    5) Boa Constrictor Melanogaster
    6) Boa Constrictor Nebulosa
    7) Boa Constrictor Occidentalis
    8) Boa Constrictor Orophias
    9) Boa Constrictor Ortonii
    10) Boa Constrictor Sabogae

    At a minimum, the proposed ban list includes all red-tails, island boas, and dwarf boas. I haven't been able to find the exact text of the bill, to find out exactly what their definition of Boa Constrictor is.
    If they are using the term Boa Constrictor to describe the sub-family Boinae, then you can add all of the tree boas, rainbow boas, rubber boas, Rosy Boas, and the three Madagascar boas to the list as well, which would add approximately 35 more snakes to the list. So, now it goes from "The 9" to "The 54".
    If their definition of the term Boa Constrictor describes the family Boidae, then you can also add all of the sand boas to that list.

    That list does not ban "only 9 snakes" or just the "big ones". It's no secret that they are gunning for the whole industry.
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    Re: RED ALERT: Stop Federal Python BAN!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vypyrz View Post
    If anyone thinks that this doesn't apply to them, because they don't own one of "The 9", think about it. The first eight snakes listed are specific animals. Boa Constrictor is not a specific name, but a sub-species that contains 10 more snakes. Now the list suddenly increases from "The 9" to "The 19". Here they are:

    1) Boa Constrictor Constrictor (BCC)
    2) Boa Constrictor Imperator (BCI)
    3) Boa Constrictor Amarali
    4) Boa Constrictor Longicauda
    5) Boa Constrictor Melanogaster
    6) Boa Constrictor Nebulosa
    7) Boa Constrictor Occidentalis
    8) Boa Constrictor Orophias
    9) Boa Constrictor Ortonii
    10) Boa Constrictor Sabogae

    At a minimum, the proposed ban list includes all red-tails, island boas, and dwarf boas. I haven't been able to find the exact text of the bill, to find out exactly what their definition of Boa Constrictor is.
    If they are using the term Boa Constrictor to describe the sub-family Boinae, then you can add all of the tree boas, rainbow boas, rubber boas, Rosy Boas, and the three Madagascar boas to the list as well, which would add approximately 35 more snakes to the list. So, now it goes from "The 9" to "The 54".
    If their definition of the term Boa Constrictor describes the family Boidae, then you can also add all of the sand boas to that list.

    That list does not ban "only 9 snakes" or just the "big ones". It's no secret that they are gunning for the whole industry.
    The language of the bill reads:

    SECTION 1. IMPORTATION OR SHIPMENT OF INJURIOUS SPECIES.

    Section 42(a)(1) of title 18, United States Code, is amended in the first sentence by inserting after `polymorpha;' the following: `of the Indian python of the species Python molurus, including the Burmese python of the species Python molurus bivittatus; of the reticulated python of the species Broghammerus reticulatus or Python reticulatus; of the Northern African python of the species Python sebae; of the Southern African python of the species Python natalensis; of the boa constrictor of the species Boa constrictor; of the yellow anaconda of the species Eunectes notaeus; of the DeSchauensee's anaconda of the species Eunectes deschauenseei; of the green anaconda of the species Eunectes murinus; of the Beni anaconda of the species Eunectes beniensis;'.

    Source: http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.511:

    I would take that to mean the first 10 subspecies are included. This would mean the rainbow, rubber and others are safe. I can actually understand the congressional intent here because as far as I know scientists have not made dinstinctions between the dwarf island boas and others. I know and you know differences occur, but Congress can only really act on scientific certainty, and they actually usually balk at that too.

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