humidity help!!!

[Skiploder]

Ok, we have 3 tanks. My husband has put foil over the top, the heat lamp is directly over the water bowls, we wrapped black contact paper around the 2 sides and back (from theoutside of course), we mist, we have a humidifier....and the humidity won't go higher then 40 (staying between 33and40). We finally put some moss in one of the hides to make a humidty hide. But what can we do to boost the humidity in those tanks?!?

Stop trying to raise the humidity in the enclosure.

Provide and maintain a humid hide. 40% humidity is not going to harm your snake.

What will harm your snake is restricting air circulation and promoting conditions in which bacteria will thrive.

[keith88]

Today I put in two humid hides per tank. One over their uth's and one in their ambient zone. Not all the way on the cool side but like dead center of the tank. I filled the hides with moistened sphagum moss( or however its spelt lol ) and I turned the room humidifier off. I'm trying to get a heater for the room today just like a 20 dollar homelite one. Hopefully that'll boost the room temps up enough to where I can take the lights completely out which will help with the heat disperssing the humidity.

[kitedemon]

Skip has the simple solution humid hides. Type of heating does not change humidity the amount and location of air flow and size and position of the water bowl does. Lamps only alter humidity because they are often mounted in such a way that they increase air flow, that is all.

[keith88]

Ok so I bought a little heater for the room to bump up ambient temps. They have uths on their tanks. So if I bump the room up to 85 86 then will that temp work for cool side and then set the thermostat to 90 94? That way I can get rid of the lights all together and they won't be sucking the humidity dry. Plus each tank has two humidty hides now. One hide sits on the uth next to their big water bowls and the other sits in the middle of the tanks.

[MadAboutReptiles]

Ok, we have 3 tanks. My husband has put foil over the top, the heat lamp is directly over the water bowls, we wrapped black contact paper around the 2 sides and back (from theoutside of course), we mist, we have a humidifier....and the humidity won't go higher then 40 (staying between 33and40). We finally put some moss in one of the hides to make a humidty hide. But what can we do to boost the humidity in those tanks?!?

Those are all good ways for good humidity but if you still cant acheive it try an under the tank heater under the water bowl preferably to evaporate your water and with the help of your moss you should acheive high humidity. Good luck

[kitedemon]

keith88 no that is a bit warm for the cool end 80 should be fine. If you are using an oil heater a baking pan with water in it on top will add a few % to ambient humidity as well. It might help a bit. Keep the hot spot at 90. It make no difference how you mange that as long as you do. (is the snake little? Like under 400 gm? if so a hot spot of 88 is fine)

90-92 is a good set point for the hot spot. It allows for thermometer or probe error and still is 'safe' from over heating. Most thermometers have a +/-2ºF error margin it may be off or not but if you allow for the potential error there are no issues in the future.


The issue with humidity and to a lesser amount heat is the open top. Cutting off air flow is not a good answer. The way the vents are positioned need to change so air flows well but heat and humidity are retained. This is an option for the future, if things are still an issue then maybe it is worth the effort.

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[keith88]

No its just a little electric homedics room heater. I have a humidifier set up right next to it and I've got them positioned so that their air streams combine so I get a nice warm humid ambient air. And all three are under 400 grams. Are smallets is a 69 gram black pastel. Are largest is my dinker male and he's 270 grams. Today I'm gonna try messing with a couple different things to either get the lights gone completely or at least used in a better way. And I'm also gonna mess around with the tank lids a little bit now. Thanks you guys for all the info.

[keith88]

Ok so I changed some things up... I uped the under tank heaters to 90F. I put a big water bowl on the hot side and a medium water bowl on the cool side. The rooms ambient temp is 83F. I took the tinfoil off of the tanks to allow for the air circulation to regulate better. I placed my sensors in a better spot and I put a damp old tshirt folded in about a 4in by 10 inch section to cover the middle third of their screen lids. Also I messed with the substrate a bit. I mixed aspen with some off the coco husk and sphagum moss and of course all tanks have two humid hides a hot side one and a cool side one... Humidity at last reading was avg of 60 in the tanks and 58 ambient room humidity. I finally think I've done it and just in time as their all looking to be starting shed cycles. Thank you all for the helpful input

[Gbusiness]

Ok, we have 3 tanks. My husband has put foil over the top, the heat lamp is directly over the water bowls, we wrapped black contact paper around the 2 sides and back (from theoutside of course), we mist, we have a humidifier....and the humidity won't go higher then 40 (staying between 33and40). We finally put some moss in one of the hides to make a humidty hide. But what can we do to boost the humidity in those tanks?!?

I had similar problem's with a 20g with mesh locking lid. I just switched over to a tub.
Some people say use a damp towel and cover the majority of the mesh lid. I've never tried it but it may work.
Do you use Uth's with your lamp's on any of your setup's? What is the type and wattage of your bulb's you use in your lamp's? Depending how much your water bowl's hold you may want to increase the volume.
For me, I knew that the 20g was only going to be a temporary setup. So, in the meantime I covered the screen with packaging foam,used a 100 watt basking bulb (heat ended up being to much. had to use aluminum to decrease heat. the heat produced would dry out the substrate hardcore. you have to read the heat bulb info and find out how far the heat will reach. The bulb I used was for 20" I think. The 20g was only 12" high). Used a uth. Had a water dish and large pool on the hot side. Had my anaconda in the tank. The humidity I'm pretty sure got up to 60. Didn't really pay attention since the annie had the pool to stay wet.
Another option you may want to consider is to switch over to sterilite tub's. Hold's heat and humidity very well. Sometimes to much much humidity and so you have to make sure there is enough ventilation.

[kitedemon]

Some day I will learn not to enter this one but... not today.

I have never found tubs to 'hold' heat at all. Perhaps I have different idea of 'holding heat' to me that means it stays warm for a while after the heat is turned off. I have never had a tub 'hold heat' for more than 4-6 min and it is at room temp. Based on my experience there is nothing worse at holding heat. Tubs offer space savings and flexible ventilation, as humidity is partially a product of ventilation that too I guess. Heating them is easy if you only talk about a hot spot when you add ambient and cool spot it is tricky. There are limited heating options with tubs, why most tubs in racks are in warm rooms.