If you think there is a difference between butter and lesser vote

[snakesRkewl]

I haven't personally confirmed it, but it has been said for a couple years now that ralph davis made some butter daddys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfQQdmSQWqc

[TessadasExotics]

He's a pastel. Like I said., taken during shed. And he's heavily browned out. He's still a pastel though, I want to get a better picture but he's on Batryil (sp error?) And finally recovering so I am not touching unless I have to.

Sorry but like I said that is not a Pastel. A young Pastel less than 400g (it looks like that's a mouse its eating so I am guessing it's even smaller than that) is not going to be "browned" out. Also the term browned out does not mean that they actually turn brown. Even an adult browned out Pastel in deep shed has more yellow than that little normal. Not tying to rain on your parade but even in deep shed, that is still not a Pastel.

[spitzu]

I'd have to agree. Someone lied to you

[ClarkT]

the biggest tell on a pastel is the green eyes... I do have a pastel that when in shed, looks just like one of my normals. She is browning out quite a lot. When she was 1000 grams, she was yellow as could be. Now at 2000 grams, she's pretty browned out.... Not that I'm saying that is a pastel or not a pastel. Just sayin' that the best tell is the green eye...

Butter = Lesser, and Lesser = Butter.....

[rabernet]

He's a pastel. Like I said., taken during shed. And he's heavily browned out. He's still a pastel though, I want to get a better picture but he's on Batryil (sp error?) And finally recovering so I am not touching unless I have to.

Sorry - even in shed, that's not a pastel by any stretch of the imagination, IMHO.

I have two lessers - who are as distinctly different as wlpythons. Again, IMHO, lessers and butters are the same thing.

[zeion97]

the biggest tell on a pastel is the green eyes... I do have a pastel that when in shed, looks just like one of my normals. She is browning out quite a lot. When she was 1000 grams, she was yellow as could be. Now at 2000 grams, she's pretty browned out.... Not that I'm saying that is a pastel or not a pastel. Just sayin' that the best tell is the green eye...

Butter = Lesser, and Lesser = Butter.....

I'm going to leave it after this quote. It HAS GREEN EYES. As of now at almost 9 months he's yellowing. The breeder showed me pics of his dad, who did almost what you described, changed colors back and for with.

For some reason whenever they see Leagalos it must become a argument. At Tinley when I got him someone tried to backtalk the breeder and say it was a normal.. then another person jumps in. Within a few minutes i'm in the middle of a argument involving my snake that I'm not even arguing. -_-; Yes he's a Pastel. IF it really means that much I'll take a mediocre picture tonight when he gets his med, but really we need to see not all snakes are 1. Top notch coloration wise. 2. Get done a good thing buy a bad picture

[zeion97]

I'm going to leave it after this quote. It HAS GREEN EYES. As of now at almost 9 months he's yellowing. The breeder showed me pics of his dad, who did almost what you described, changed colors back and for with.

For some reason whenever they see Leagalos it must become a argument. At Tinley when I got him someone tried to backtalk the breeder and say it was a normal.. then another person jumps in. Within a few minutes i'm in the middle of a argument involving my snake that I'm not even arguing. -_-; Yes he's a Pastel. IF it really means that much I'll take a mediocre picture tonight when he gets his med, but really we need to see not all snakes are 1. Top notch coloration wise. 2. Get done a good thing buy a bad picture

I apologize, after I re-read that I thought of how rudely it was worded. The truth is this topic just gets at me somewhat. I know its a BAD picture, and he's a very bad quality pastel, but i bought him to be a pet, not to breed or show off. This would be time number 4 it has been debated just because of his color, (counting when i bought him) and it just gets old. I will get a better picture tonight though. Again, if i came off harshly i apologize.

[rabernet]

the biggest tell on a pastel is the green eyes... I do have a pastel that when in shed, looks just like one of my normals. She is browning out quite a lot. When she was 1000 grams, she was yellow as could be. Now at 2000 grams, she's pretty browned out.... Not that I'm saying that is a pastel or not a pastel. Just sayin' that the best tell is the green eye...

Butter = Lesser, and Lesser = Butter.....

Except - I have normals with green eyes. Green eyes does not confirm that an animal is a pastel.

[rabernet]

I'm going to leave it after this quote. It HAS GREEN EYES. As of now at almost 9 months he's yellowing. The breeder showed me pics of his dad, who did almost what you described, changed colors back and for with.

For some reason whenever they see Leagalos it must become a argument. At Tinley when I got him someone tried to backtalk the breeder and say it was a normal.. then another person jumps in. Within a few minutes i'm in the middle of a argument involving my snake that I'm not even arguing. -_-; Yes he's a Pastel. IF it really means that much I'll take a mediocre picture tonight when he gets his med, but really we need to see not all snakes are 1. Top notch coloration wise. 2. Get done a good thing buy a bad picture

Can you get some belly shots as well?

[rabernet]

I'm going to leave it after this quote. It HAS GREEN EYES. As of now at almost 9 months he's yellowing. The breeder showed me pics of his dad, who did almost what you described, changed colors back and for with.

For some reason whenever they see Leagalos it must become a argument. At Tinley when I got him someone tried to backtalk the breeder and say it was a normal.. then another person jumps in. Within a few minutes i'm in the middle of a argument involving my snake that I'm not even arguing. -_-; Yes he's a Pastel. IF it really means that much I'll take a mediocre picture tonight when he gets his med, but really we need to see not all snakes are 1. Top notch coloration wise. 2. Get done a good thing buy a bad picture

Can you get some belly shots as well?