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Re: over the counter medication?
As the old quote by Thomas Henry Huxley roughly states, if you left a hundred monkeys in front of a hundred typewriters for a hundred years eventually you’d manage to get a Shakespearean sonnet.
Well, ladies and gentlemen of BP.net, I am happy to report that while no Shakespearean sonnets have been written, it appears that one of those apes has taken time from smearing turds on the wall and picking insects of his neighbors to repsond to my post.
 Originally Posted by Missy King
so wait, you guys are mad at this melissa person because she doesn't think that everyone should be able to keep exotic pets? not everyone should have kids either.
and i have had too many experience with greedy vets. Complain all you want about school bills, anyone who's gone to college has them...and everyone works to pay them off. It's not like vets don't make money. please. you also can't tell me that vets in one area, say...in L.A. Southern California, don't charge more than say, Eastern Oregon.
In my exact experience, this is true.
You guys are being pretty defensive of my opinion of vets and their charges. i really doubt any of you have seen the prices down here in southern cali.
Also, why on earth would it be okay to give your own shots to your dog, and treat most worms or parasites, but then you frown on someone who says you don't need to go to a vet for that? Contradiction.
Agreed, as someone bleated, there are no magic pills to cure all parasites...but there ARE pills that are sold over the counter, and they ARE the same ingredients as the vet sells you. If you are knowledgeable about giving them to your animals, as someone else suggested you should be to do it....then there is not a problem, and you do not need a $58 dollar vet fee to figure that out.
As for someone else saying "spend years learning about it yourself, or get another vet" yeah, buddy, that's my point. I do read about it, and i do what i can myself, and i have not had the same vet twice (except when i lived in eastern Oregon, actually).
So I will admit my post had a frustrated tone. yeah, i'm frustrated.
If you say the vet's office is a business...and they want my money for medcine, and they want to pay off their expensive and amazing educations, then why wouldn't they match prices for the internet, or at least offer a more realistic cost to someone who points out their price is high? It's just easier to not sell it at all? That's really stupid business. I mean, after all, some money is some money, and better than none...especially when their school is SO expensive and just regular work cannot cut it to cover bills!
I'm sorry...actually no, i'm not. Probably 90% of you are responding as a knee-jerk reaction. I don't think the vet treating about 1,000 chihuahuas and driving corvet needs my money. That is actually how it is in my area.
I chose the wrong vet when she said she treated reptiles *shrug* that was my point. You guys can get as snarky as you want, but you're just being annoying.
I mean, where do you guys have the gall to, on one hand, fuss at me for trying to do what I can for my pets and rescues at a reasonable price, and doing and learning on my own to treat them when i can...and then on the other hand get high and mighty and make fun of internet posts by someone who has gone to way more "expensive" schooling than you and say it's all wrong? Have YOU Studied as much as this melissa person or are you just mad that she doesn't think everyone should own exotics? lol
Jeez. The first link you put up is just another forum complaining about that chick. I don't know anything about monitors so i have no idea if the second one is right or wrong...but neither do you...do you? I mean you just automatically bring your pets straight to the vet, so why would you even pay attention to anything on the internet??
Let's take things, er, point by point:
 Originally Posted by Missy King
so wait, you guys are mad at this melissa person because she doesn't think that everyone should be able to keep exotic pets? not everyone should have kids either
While mastering a typewriter and logging into an internet forum are admirable feats, understanding a post before you respond to it is considered de rigueur on the interwebs.
Here, I'll help you a bit - no one is mad at Melissa Kraplan. We all are just tired of her pro HSUS stance and the oodles and oodles of bad information she pollutes the web with.
As for your comparison with her advocating a ban on exotic pets and people not having kids - again, you seem to not be able to discern the difference between an orange globe of fruit and a red globe of fruit. Learn that difference and your life outside of the typewriter lab will be oh so much easier.
Also, why on earth would it be okay to give your own shots to your dog, and treat most worms or parasites, but then you frown on someone who says you don't need to go to a vet for that? Contradiction.
Agreed, as someone bleated, there are no magic pills to cure all parasites...but there ARE pills that are sold over the counter, and they ARE the same ingredients as the vet sells you. If you are knowledgeable about giving them to your animals, as someone else suggested you should be to do it....then there is not a problem, and you do not need a $58 dollar vet fee to figure that out.
This part of your post left me wondering if some Kaopectate might actually work on diarrhea spewing from the mouth. This is not Beagle.net or Labradoodle.net, it's Ball-Pythons.net. No one is arguing about treating that puppy they stuck in the lab with you and your troop to see if you would adopt it or eat it, we are discussing treating a colubrid for internal parasites.
You can buy dog and cat tape, round and hook worm medication over the counter and without a prescription. The vast majority of doggy and kitty intestinal parasites comprise these main types of worms and are treating by one or two medications that are easy to dose and carry no side effects.
With reptiles, there are many, many, many more types of intestinal parasites they can be afflicted by, and many of the medications require a prescription to obtain. These meds can also kill your reptile if you dose them wrong. So (bear with me here), you need a vet - not Melissa Kraplan - to diagnose your snakes poo (yes diagnose, not smear on walls or fling said poo) to determine the one , or in some cases two or three naughty bugs afflicting your reptile. Then that vet needs to give you a prescription so that you can make your snake all better. Is that clear enough? Or are you going to start confusing your fruits again?
Jeez. The first link you put up is just another forum complaining about that chick. I don't know anything about monitors so i have no idea if the second one is right or wrong...but neither do you...do you? I mean you just automatically bring your pets straight to the vet, so why would you even pay attention to anything on the internet??
The first link I put up is a discussion where people outlined the errors in Anapsid and the duplicity of the author.
As you yourself stated, you know diddly over crap about monitors, so you should have kept your banana hole shut and not typed any more of your stream of un-medicated consciousness.
I, on the other hand, do. That sheet I linked to is a prescription for a sick or dead monitor. It has nothing to do with vets. Monitors like dirt, they like it hot and savannah monitors need an invertebrate diet. It's that simple. On almost every point she was wrong. Get it - wrong?
Once more with feeling - WRONG. Your grand finish, which was an apparent attempt to throw the forum's stance on vets back in our collective faces is pathetic.
That disgusting care sheet on savannah monitors has nothing to do with the forum's advocacy of seeking a qualified reptile vet to deal with internal parasites and administer prescription drugs. Are you that thick that you cannot grasp the simple concept of a rotten care sheet? Or are you intent on turning this thread into a rant against all the vets that you feel are ripping you off?
Back to the typewriter with you for another 100 years. You are nowhere close to even being able to cogently respond to an internet post - let alone write that Shakespearean sonnet you have been tasked with.
Toodles!
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