Thanka everyone for the replies. I couldn't get my started threads to open so I apologize for the late. A quick update, both snakes are doing quite well, the Burmese has defecated twice and both were normal. And also had a perfect shed. our pastel Is still on antibiotics which I really hope they are doing more good then bad, but after eating 2 weeks ago also had a food "defection" (Sp?) Thanks you for the replies! And I apologize for the late reply and thanks.