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I produced a lesser pied this year from a lesser het pied x pied breeding. I bred a lesser to a pied a couple years ago and produced a couple male lessers het for pied. I then bred him back to a pied female. Here are the results, perfect odds as well...
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Great looking babies! Outstanding clutch!
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1.1 Het pied
1.1 Het Ghost
1.6 Normal
1.1 Butter
1.1 Mojave
0.1 Bumble Bee
1.0 Axanthic
0.2 Pastel
0.1 Red tail boa
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Re: BEL x pied
 Originally Posted by that_dc5
A lesser pied will be all white, but you'd have to breed a lesser het pied x lesser het pied.
I'm pretty sure a Lesser Pied is 100% white and can be produced by breeding lesser het pied X pied. I might be wrong but that's what I remember the original animals being. I don't think the genetics are as cut and dry as they were thought to be when combining these two morphs.
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Re: BEL x pied
 Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne
I'm pretty sure a Lesser Pied is 100% white and can be produced by breeding lesser het pied X pied. I might be wrong but that's what I remember the original animals being. I don't think the genetics are as cut and dry as they were thought to be when combining these two morphs.
That's what I meant... same difference. het. pied won't give you an all white snake, only Lesser and the full visual pied.... But if i had to choose I'd do Lesser het. pied x Lesser het. Pied and hopefully get a BEL Pied
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Re: BEL x pied
 Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne
I'm pretty sure a Lesser Pied is 100% white and can be produced by breeding lesser het pied X pied. I might be wrong but that's what I remember the original animals being. I don't think the genetics are as cut and dry as they were thought to be when combining these two morphs.
That's actually correct though
[6.18 Ball Pythons ]
Clown, Champagne, Pied, Pastel Lesser, Enchi, Fire
Albino, Bumble Bee, Pewter, Black Pastel, Lesser, Pastel Het Pied, 2 Mojaves, 2 Pastels Het OG, 2 Spiders, 3 Het Pieds, 3 Normals
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Not all lesser pieds are pure white.
Here's an adult lesser pied: http://www.worldofballpythons.com/fi...r-pied/002.jpg
You can see that, while lesser pieds tend to be extreme high white, they're not always all white.
A BEL pied would be 100% white, of course. BEL is super-lesser. BEL is 100% white, and pied simply adds white patches and disrupts pattern, so good luck distinguishing a BEL pied from a BEL. 
I guess you'd have to test breed it to a pied for a couple of years, to see if all the offspring turned out pied.
It would be quite the desirable animal to have as a breeder, though, even if it looked no different from a typical BEL.
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Might as well be 100% white at that point. I love high white pieds as much as low and med whites, but I'm not dying to have a 100% white pied. I'm adding enchi to my cinny and pewter pied projects...hopefully this season. My male enchi is a tad small but I'll give it a shot if he is up for it. I have plans for him and my pewter pied girl. This will prove his het pied status as well.
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