Ballbids.com

[Strick]

Hi I am Zach....Good grief that should tell you something from the get go...Read through the first few pages and could not believe this mess... Good for a laugh though. Just hope to many people dont buy into this nonsense but people always do and that's why these types are still around after all of this time...

[Balls Out Morphs]

This thread delivers!!!

[bobbyb]

I agree these guys need to go away and go back to whatever they were doing before,just stay away from snakes though.They have been put on blast on like every forum not actually answering the questions they try to but they just say the wrong answers, the whole reptile community is onto them. .I haven't even been doing this hobby for that long and i even know more then they do about husbandry and the care for the snakes.And the only people that are actually bidding on these "snakes" obviously aren't joined in any forums because they wouldn't even participate if they were.Sooner or later EVERYONE will catch on ,than what are they going to change it from bp's to some other animals.

I have a new business idea for you guys go have a penny auction for like some wrapping paper or Mcdonalds.

I love the bp world and i love my snakes and for you guys to pretty much make a mockery of it pretty much pisses me off and the sad thing is this thing is already getting pretty viral i just hope you guys get caught and this doesn't negatively effect the reptile community in any way,which who knows it could of been your plan the whole time since you did leave a little hostile from here.

[Boanerges]

don took care of most of what I was thinking about after reading the updates.

one question lingers though, aside from the discrepancy in avi's statements regarding refunds from the server-crashing auction: who, if anyone, actually won last night?

this business model should fade away entirely, and should not have been appropriated to sell any live animals in the first place.

Looks to me like a friend of theirs supposedly won last night but they decided to reauction the snake that she supposedly won...

[Boanerges]

[Don]

If that is not incriminating (showing there was a real scam, not just uninformed goofs getting in over their head) then it is extremely suspicious. Where did it come from?

[wwmjkd]

If that is not incriminating (showing there was a real scam, not just uninformed goofs getting in over their head) then it is extremely suspicious. Where did it come from?

it appears to be the facebook page for the company.

thanks to Robin for her persistence and dealing with flack from uninformed and potentially complicit people.

[Boanerges]

Yes it came from the ballbids facebook page. More comments have been written. I am pretty much confused on completely what is going on now though

[Don]

OK, just went over and read more than I care too of that wall. It is mighty suspicious that one of his biggest defenders won the auction and that a friend of hers was the other top bidder. I really thought this was a venture started out by two young guys who just didn't do their homework and didn't understand the industry - trying to get rich quick. Now, I'm moving away from that to thinking that there is a real scam going on.

Also, notice how the posts on the Facebook page there are no spelling errors and the grammar is pretty good, but everything posted is signed "Zach"? That is not Zach writing. I've seen enough of Zach's writing to spot it. He doesn't have the writing skills to respond like that. It is Avi. Why the deception?

I suspect those on Facebook defending them are investors in the scheme, or family members. They must have put out some real money to get this thing ramped up so quickly. They must feel sick seeing the response Ballbids is getting from the reptile community as their investment crumbles.

[AGoldReptiles]

I love this hobby/community. Thanks to everyone who outed these greedy individuals who want to prey on the ignorant and naive to line there pockets.

Everyone here is doing a great job at pointing out there lies and deceptions. I would just like to add that I will "Blacklist" ANYONE who provides these individuals with animals for there shady practices.

These are living creatures that they are treating like laptops. Support BREEDERS who work hard to provide quality animals, not some computer savy (not really) individual and a newb who does not even understand basic husbandry that want to prey on the ignorant.

Anthony