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View Poll Results: How many of you would buy a Ball Python that is, or has ever been, fed ASFs.
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Yes
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No
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Only if the first few meals were ASFs (to get a hatchling to start eating)
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Only if it can be demonstrated (pics/video) that the snake will also take rats
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Only if it can be demonstrated (pics/video) that the snake will also take mice
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Re: Would you buy an ASF eater?
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F/T rats ONLY 'round here.
Balls are NOT that big of a challenge to feed. ASFs are totally unnecessary and make things more complicated than they need to be. If I see ASF in an ad, I stop reading. The only way I would consider one that had been fed them is if they also take rats, cause once they come to me, they'll never be offered an ASF again.
K-I-S-S.
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Re: Would you buy an ASF eater?
I have raised asfs and will never have anything to do with them again, including a snake that eats them.
I raised asf's to sell the people that were buying imported ball pythons from the local pet shop that was buying them and not getting them eating, (my wife and I owned a pet shop and only sold captive babies) but it was a good deal, they buy the ball from me and get a good eater or buy one from them and pay 6-10 bucks a piece for asf's from me. I will admit I over charged for them buy hey supply and demand right
Anyway after dealing with the little buggers they bite alot, that doesnt bother me, but it does bother me when they bite so much I become alergic and every time they bite me my hand sells up for days at a time.
JUSTIN MITCHELL
PRIMAL SCREAM REPTILES
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I have a hard time believing the poll results. I think some people are possibly answering that without thinking about how difficult it can be to acquire ASF. They are even tough just to keep and breed compared to rats. No ASF eating snakes at my place ever. I skip ads that say ASF when I'm looking for snakes.
Regards,
B
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Re: Would you buy an ASF eater?
 Originally Posted by Simple Man
I have a hard time believing the poll results. I think some people are possibly answering that without thinking about how difficult it can be to acquire ASF. They are even tough just to keep and breed compared to rats. No ASF eating snakes at my place ever. I skip ads that say ASF when I'm looking for snakes.
Regards,
B
I have bread rats and I currently breed ASFs and find ASFs to be much easier. They require less room, smell less and have large litters. You don't have to separate the females to give birth or care for their litters. The only thing I don't like about them is they take so long to grow up, but that has its advantages when you have a bunch of baby balls around.
Also, my adult snakes have switched from rats to ASFs, back to rats and to ASFs again with no problem. All of my babies were started on ASFs, but the ones I plan on selling have been converted over to F/T rats. People who have purchased snakes from me have reported that those babies are eating fine, regardless of what the buyer chooses to feed.
Yes, there are picky snakes but you could just as easily have a ball python that was started on mouse hoppers being stuck on mice. I don't think ASFs are as evil as people make them out to be.
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Re: Would you buy an ASF eater?
 Originally Posted by Simple Man
I have a hard time believing the poll results. I think some people are possibly answering that without thinking about how difficult it can be to acquire ASF. They are even tough just to keep and breed compared to rats. No ASF eating snakes at my place ever. I skip ads that say ASF when I'm looking for snakes.
Regards,
B
I have a hard time believing the results too, based on all of the fear mongering I've been seeing around here. 
And ASFs are way easier to breed than rats, by the way. Have you tried, or are you just repeating what you've read?
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I would buy an ASF eater.
However, I would not sell ASF eaters, lol. I feed my snakes on Norway rats only, because there are so many people that are turned off by ASF eaters.
[Python regius]
1.0 Black Butter Pinstripe (Amazeballs), 1.0 Pastel Butter Leopard (Thunderbeeper)
0.1 Spider (Charlotte), 0.1 Leopard (Spot), 0.1 Pastel (Buttercup), Fire Sugar (Abaddon), Crystal (Opalescence)
[Python brongersmai]
1.1 T+ Albino (Kushiel & Carmilla)
[Boa imperator]
1.0 Hypo 100% Het Leopard/66% Het Albino (Darcy)
0.1 66% Het Leopard/Albino (Gabby)
[Colubrids]
0.1 Cave-dwelling Rat Snakes (Betty Spaghetti)
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Re: Would you buy an ASF eater?
 Originally Posted by spitzu
I have a hard time believing the results too, based on all of the fear mongering I've been seeing around here.
And ASFs are way easier to breed than rats, by the way. Have you tried, or are you just repeating what you've read?
I had a couple of ASFs that would not breed for 3 MONTHS! Then finally I wrapped a towel around my hand (they were biters), and closely examined them. They were both male.
[Python regius]
1.0 Black Butter Pinstripe (Amazeballs), 1.0 Pastel Butter Leopard (Thunderbeeper)
0.1 Spider (Charlotte), 0.1 Leopard (Spot), 0.1 Pastel (Buttercup), Fire Sugar (Abaddon), Crystal (Opalescence)
[Python brongersmai]
1.1 T+ Albino (Kushiel & Carmilla)
[Boa imperator]
1.0 Hypo 100% Het Leopard/66% Het Albino (Darcy)
0.1 66% Het Leopard/Albino (Gabby)
[Colubrids]
0.1 Cave-dwelling Rat Snakes (Betty Spaghetti)
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Re: Would you buy an ASF eater?
Like previously stated if its a ball I really want I wouldn't call it a deal breaker but would prefer all my snakes on rats. To those who say the Asfs aren't mean you have clearly never put your hand in a tank with a litter of babys! They bite HARD! Besides that they take FOREVER to grow. They have their uses but I avoid them if possible.
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Re: Would you buy an ASF eater?
 Originally Posted by meowmeowkazoo
I had a couple of ASFs that would not breed for 3 MONTHS! Then finally I wrapped a towel around my hand (they were biters), and closely examined them. They were both male.
Ya' got, I said Ya' got the wrong plumbing son.

... and I hope that does not mean they started breeding after 3 Months.
(Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
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