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[Don]

So, after the Mods warned you that you can not have more than one account, you start another account and start posting again?

Your terms and conditions do not provide a warranty on live delivery. That is your legal contract with bidders. It is what you point to when something goes wrong. Also, your terms and conditions only warrant merchandise for seven days. It clearly states live animals are not returnable. Your post does not jive with your terms and conditions.

[wilomn]

Hey everyone, Zack at Ballbids.com again


I see a lot of people are concerned about what has happened in the past. Let me explain... I never admitted to a lie because I never told one. I never made myself out to be better then anyone else. I never did anything wrong actually, accept not spelling right and posting to many threads about the same thing. I could see where people would have gotten mad but hey, it was my first time to a forum ever and as you can see, I am a very outgoing and friendly character that does not like negativity in my life. When people started to behave in an inappropriate manner it was only a matter of time before I snapped. I was not ready for that. Kind of threw me off I guess. Either way I should have never been irrational and lost my temper. Besides that, I never scammed or would even scam anyone in my entire life. I don't know why people like to make false accusations. But that is their business. Mine is to help suppress the negative false comments so that people that actually do like this company will not be scared off for false reasons. Anyways, I really wish the bad talking would end because there are no valid points to it. Yes it says on our website that we guarantee our product up to 7 days. We do guarantee live arrival. We do put it out there that you have to buy bids first. We even give you back 5 percent. We could have done this a different way just to make more money. And it might also have worked that way. But we did't. We wanted to make it honest and fair for everyone. I know why you are concerned. We all have been scammed. Not by me tho, and you will never by me! I hope you can agree with my ethics even if you don't agree with my business.

My roses say thank you, that was much better than the cow poop they've been getting.

[rivunel]

ok so based on that say i only post 1 bid on the animal and lose. bid was for $15
cost for bid 65cents i only pay 65cents not 15.65 correct?

and since you give 5 free bids for signing up if i place 1 bid for $15 and dont win i owe nothing until i run out of free bids?


i just want to make sure i understand this and it is as black and white as possible for not just myself but all others as well.

actually you can't bid soething like fifteen dollars the auction starts at zero every bid (that costs you .55 minimum) brings the auction price up one penny

[Boanerges]

Zack, YOU are not banned from this site. Just your newest account. You are welcome to log in as man-made evolution anytime you wish to participate here. However, if you create yet another account to try and get around the rules of this site, you will be truly banned. "did i miss something here............."
spooky

No but he has a good chance of being banned permanently now...

[Don]

From your website: I added emphasis to relevant points.

It seems you have already removed the notation about animals not being able to be returned.

8. Delivery:



Unless otherwise stated, delivery will be made directly from our suppliers or from our shipping facility to the address provided by the user. Deliveries are made solely within the 48 contiguous states of the United States (explicitly excluding the U.S. sovereign territories of Guam, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands). Please check notifications on the pages, which provide the details on each specific auction in advance. Delivery times vary and any delivery time indicated is provided only as a guide and is not guaranteed. BallBids.com shall be entitled to engage third parties to satisfy its contractual obligations without being required to notify the buyer. Obvious damage to the item or packaging during transport shall be reported to BallBids.com by the winner upon taking delivery. Should BallBids.com not be able to deliver the item ordered, BallBids.com shall promptly notify the winner if it can deliver a comparable substitute product that has the same or better features. The winner shall then promptly notify BallBids.com if it wishes to receive this substitute or if it prefers to receive a refund of the final auction end price. BallBids.com does not ship to Alaska or Hawaii.



9. Compensation for Defects:



If there is a defect in the product received and the winner wishes nevertheless to retain the product and receive compensation from BallBids.com for the reduction in value arising from the defect, the winner must provide BallBids.com with reasonably sufficient evidence of the defect and the reduction in value. Accordingly, minor defects will occasion a minor compensation to the winner by BallBids.com. The winner must make such claim within the seven (7) day period set out above and according to the same conditions.




10. Disclaimer of Warranties:



THE ITEMS THAT YOU MAY WIN ON THE SITE ARE SOLD WITH THE MANUFACTURE'S LIMITED WARRANTY ONLY. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT THE WARRANTY PERIOD VARIES BY MANUFACTURER AND PRODUCT. NO WARRANTY APPLIES TO USED ITEMS. IF FOR ANY REASON YOU ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH ANY ITEMS PURCHASED THROUGH THE SITE OR WISH TO RECEIVE SUPPORT, YOU MUST CONTACT THE MANUFACTURER. EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE EXPRESSLY SET FORTH HEREIN, THE SITE, THE SERVICES AND THE PRODUCTS AVAILABLE ON THE SITE ARE PROVIDED ON AN "AS IS" AND "AS AVAILABLE" BASIS WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KINDAND BALLBIDS.COM EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS, IMPLIED OR STATUTORY, RELATING THERETO, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION THE WARRANTIES OF TITLE, MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, NON-INFRINGEMENT, COURSE OF DEALING OR COURSE OF PERFORMANCE. FURTHERMORE, BALLBIDS.COM DISCLAIMS ANY WARRANTIES: (I) REGARDING THE SECURITY, ACCURACY, RELIABILITY, TIMELINESS AND PERFORMANCE OF THE SITE AND THE SERVICES; AND (II) THAT THE SITE AND THE SERVICES WILL BE ERROR-FREE OR THAT ANY ERRORS WILL BE CORRECTED. NO ADVICE OR INFORMATION, WHETHER ORAL OR WRITTEN, OBTAINED BY YOU FROM BALLBIDS.COM, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY DATA OR BIDDING STRATEGIES PROVIDED UNDER THESE TERMS, WILL CREATE ANY WARRANTY NOT EXPRESSLY STATED IN THESE TERMS. FURTHERMORE, YOU UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO WIN ITEMS ON WHICH YOU HAVE BID, AND THAT EVERY TIME YOU PLACE A BID FOR AN ITEM, SUCH BID IS DEDUCTED FROM YOUR USER ACCOUNT AND CAN NO LONGER BE USED, WHETHER OR NOT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO WIN THE ITEM.

[dr del]

A Note from ADMIN:

Why is the zackballbids account banned? It's been a very long-established part of the rules of this site that we allow ONE account per member. Period. And Zack is well aware of this because he tried to create a new account early this year and got in trouble for it. We gave him the benefit of the doubt, merged the new account with his old one, and considered that his one allowed name-change we offer to our members.

Zack, YOU are not banned from this site. Just your newest account. You are welcome to log in as man-made evolution anytime you wish to participate here. However, if you create yet another account to try and get around the rules of this site, you will be truly banned.

Hey everyone, Zack at Ballbids.com again


I see a lot of people are concerned about what has happened in the past. Let me explain... I never admitted to a lie because I never told one. I never made myself out to be better then anyone else. I never did anything wrong actually, accept not spelling right and posting to many threads about the same thing. I could see where people would have gotten mad but hey, it was my first time to a forum ever and as you can see, I am a very outgoing and friendly character that does not like negativity in my life. When people started to behave in an inappropriate manner it was only a matter of time before I snapped. I was not ready for that. Kind of threw me off I guess. Either way I should have never been irrational and lost my temper. Besides that, I never scammed or would even scam anyone in my entire life. I don't know why people like to make false accusations. But that is their business. Mine is to help suppress the negative false comments so that people that actually do like this company will not be scared off for false reasons. Anyways, I really wish the bad talking would end because there are no valid points to it. Yes it says on our website that we guarantee our product up to 7 days. We do guarantee live arrival. We do put it out there that you have to buy bids first. We even give you back 5 percent. We could have done this a different way just to make more money. And it might also have worked that way. But we did't. We wanted to make it honest and fair for everyone. I know why you are concerned. We all have been scammed. Not by me tho, and you will never by me! I hope you can agree with my ethics even if you don't agree with my business.

Zack, YOU are not banned from this site. Just your newest account. You are welcome to log in as man-made evolution anytime you wish to participate here. However, if you create yet another account to try and get around the rules of this site, you will be truly banned. "did i miss something here............."
spooky

Nope. He was warned.

And if he does it again I will take steps to prevent it that will prevent either party involved from using this site in any way.


dr del

[JLC]

Thank you, Derek.


Avi...I have to ask you. If your partner is incapable of understanding and following the VERY simple rules of this site, what assurances do we have that he will bother following his own rules of his own site?

And in case it wasn't perfectly clear by what Derek posted, you should have a talk with Zack and tell him to NOT create another account here. If he does, your own ability to post here will be in jeopardy and you may find it a lot more difficult to answer the questions people are asking.

[snakesRkewl]

Hey everyone, Zack at Ballbids.com again


I see a lot of people are concerned about what has happened in the past. Let me explain... I never admitted to a lie because I never told one. I never made myself out to be better then anyone else. I never did anything wrong actually, accept not spelling right and posting to many threads about the same thing. I could see where people would have gotten mad but hey, it was my first time to a forum ever and as you can see, I am a very outgoing and friendly character that does not like negativity in my life. When people started to behave in an inappropriate manner it was only a matter of time before I snapped. I was not ready for that. Kind of threw me off I guess. Either way I should have never been irrational and lost my temper. Besides that, I never scammed or would even scam anyone in my entire life. I don't know why people like to make false accusations. But that is their business. Mine is to help suppress the negative false comments so that people that actually do like this company will not be scared off for false reasons. Anyways, I really wish the bad talking would end because there are no valid points to it. Yes it says on our website that we guarantee our product up to 7 days. We do guarantee live arrival. We do put it out there that you have to buy bids first. We even give you back 5 percent. We could have done this a different way just to make more money. And it might also have worked that way. But we did't. We wanted to make it honest and fair for everyone. I know why you are concerned. We all have been scammed. Not by me tho, and you will never by me! I hope you can agree with my ethics even if you don't agree with my business.

If we believe your business model is unethical, how can we agree with your ethics?

[jsmorphs2]

Terms and Conditions state that there is no warranty. This means no live guarantee, no health guarantee, no sex guarantee. It also states that live animals may not be returned.

Hi rabernet!

All of our animals are quarantined in a melamine rack system that we put together ourselves to keep costs to a minimum. We've got one sub-adult rack as well as a hatchling rack built, including several thermostats, heat tape, hide boxes, water bowls, etc., to keep the snakes happy and healthy. Once we're done putting together the rest of our material, we should have enough room to house roughly 100 snakes in all. We also feed them rats several times a week, and, seeing as how Constrictors Unlimited handles their business, we've never had a problem when it comes to meal time.

You'll get a chance to see everything we do here once we get our first video up. Please, stay tuned!

Sorry, you did not answer the quarantine question. Do animals that you intend to auction go into racks where there are any other snakes that are going up for auction? How long are your snakes isolated in quarantine from other snakes before being sold? You were asked a quarantine question and you responded with a husbandry care type answer.

Your terms and conditions state there are no warranties, no live delivery guarantees and no health guarantee and no genetics guarantee, is this correct? I've carefully read them and it says that live animals can not be returned.

To summarize, let me see if I understand this correctly:

• Zach comes on multiple forums and behaves badly.
  
• Once his identity has been discovered, you start posting for the company. He goes silent.
  
• Once his behaviors have been discussed, you (not him) apologize for his actions.
  
• You and Zach place a banner ad that says you sold snakes that you have not sold. You state that it isn't lying, it is marketing.
  
• There is no guarantee of live delivery.
  
• There is no guarantee of a healthy animal.
  
• There are no returns.
  
• You've intentionally chosen a business model that is known to be used by scammers.
  

Now, we're supposed to trust you? Pardon me if I'm still a little skeptical.

This! ^^^

From Ballbids.com:

8. Delivery:



Unless otherwise stated, delivery will be made directly from our suppliers or from our shipping facility to the address provided by the user. Deliveries are made solely within the 48 contiguous states of the United States (explicitly excluding the U.S. sovereign territories of Guam, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands). Please check notifications on the pages, which provide the details on each specific auction in advance. Delivery times vary and any delivery time indicated is provided only as a guide and is not guaranteed. BallBids.com shall be entitled to engage third parties to satisfy its contractual obligations without being required to notify the buyer. Obvious damage to the item or packaging during transport shall be reported to BallBids.com by the winner upon taking delivery. Should BallBids.com not be able to deliver the item ordered, BallBids.com shall promptly notify the winner if it can deliver a comparable substitute product that has the same or better features. The winner shall then promptly notify BallBids.com if it wishes to receive this substitute or if it prefers to receive a refund of the final auction end price. BallBids.com does not ship to Alaska or Hawaii.



9. Compensation for Defects:



If there is a defect in the product received and the winner wishes nevertheless to retain the product and receive compensation from BallBids.com for the reduction in value arising from the defect, the winner must provide BallBids.com with reasonably sufficient evidence of the defect and the reduction in value. Accordingly, minor defects will occasion a minor compensation to the winner by BallBids.com. The winner must make such claim within the seven (7) day period set out above and according to the same conditions.




10. Disclaimer of Warranties:



THE ITEMS THAT YOU MAY WIN ON THE SITE ARE SOLD WITH THE MANUFACTURE'S LIMITED WARRANTY ONLY. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT THE WARRANTY PERIOD VARIES BY MANUFACTURER AND PRODUCT. NO WARRANTY APPLIES TO USED ITEMS. IF FOR ANY REASON YOU ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH ANY ITEMS PURCHASED THROUGH THE SITE OR WISH TO RECEIVE SUPPORT, YOU MUST CONTACT THE MANUFACTURER. EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE EXPRESSLY SET FORTH HEREIN, THE SITE, THE SERVICES AND THE PRODUCTS AVAILABLE ON THE SITE ARE PROVIDED ON AN "AS IS" AND "AS AVAILABLE" BASIS WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KINDAND BALLBIDS.COM EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS, IMPLIED OR STATUTORY, RELATING THERETO, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION THE WARRANTIES OF TITLE, MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, NON-INFRINGEMENT, COURSE OF DEALING OR COURSE OF PERFORMANCE. FURTHERMORE, BALLBIDS.COM DISCLAIMS ANY WARRANTIES: (I) REGARDING THE SECURITY, ACCURACY, RELIABILITY, TIMELINESS AND PERFORMANCE OF THE SITE AND THE SERVICES; AND (II) THAT THE SITE AND THE SERVICES WILL BE ERROR-FREE OR THAT ANY ERRORS WILL BE CORRECTED. NO ADVICE OR INFORMATION, WHETHER ORAL OR WRITTEN, OBTAINED BY YOU FROM BALLBIDS.COM, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY DATA OR BIDDING STRATEGIES PROVIDED UNDER THESE TERMS, WILL CREATE ANY WARRANTY NOT EXPRESSLY STATED IN THESE TERMS. FURTHERMORE, YOU UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO WIN ITEMS ON WHICH YOU HAVE BID, AND THAT EVERY TIME YOU PLACE A BID FOR AN ITEM, SUCH BID IS DEDUCTED FROM YOUR USER ACCOUNT AND CAN NO LONGER BE USED, WHETHER OR NOT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO WIN THE ITEM.

I have to say, penny bidding site aside, I am totally out raged by this!! It is completely irresponsible! You are NOT auctioning of IPADS! Theses are live animals!! Just to start, your idea of QT is totally pointless and is in no way the proper QT procedure. Is it just a gesture to make people feel better cause you "quarantine" your animals?

And WHAT is this??:
"Should BallBids.com not be able to deliver the item ordered, BallBids.com shall promptly notify the winner if it can deliver a comparable substitute product that has the same or better features."

If you have the animal there and are selling said animal HOW can you not guarantee the animal bid on is the exact one being sent??!!

And that's just one example of why I believe your site is irresponsible and will just be a negative blemish on this already stressed hobby. I can just see PETA now.....

[OhhWatALoser]

I never really understood the penny auction scam, but now I see the potential for it with the 15 second reset, check this out, you don't even need a product

I setup OWAL auction the #1 *insert valuable thing here* auction site
People pay to bid on *insert valuable thing here*
If you bid in the last 15 seconds, timer gets reset.
So I just make the timer reset constantly with an account owned by me, at 1 second left
once I feel pretty confident no one else is bidding on it, I win the auction.
Make fake customer testimonial about how I got my *insert valuable thing here* and im happy with it.
Rinse repeat. No *insert valuable thing here* needed.

to the post above me, thats a cookie cutter terms of service, they just copied one and put their website name in it, the most likely didn't even read it. If they did read it..... *insert phrase to question their intelligence*