What would you get if you had 10,to 12k to spend

[jason_ladouceur]

with out a doupt a pair of Morelia boeleni.

http://www.pythons.co.uk/imgs/collection/boelens9.jpg

not only way cooler than any Ball IMO. but as an investment they would still be worth what you payed for them in 5 or 6 years unlike any bp morph.

[boadaddy]

I would get up on Jeremy Stone's Princess Diamond boa project and Jeff Ronne's Paradise boas for sure!

[kitedemon]

Smart investments in ball pythons can definitely bring a much better return on investment than gold.

I know that this is not what the question is or even in the spirit. But from an investment point of view this is crazy if I bought 10oz of gold Feb last year (13180$) and sold it in August (18897$) you are telling me you can do better after all the expenses and costs and LABOUR associated with breeding you can turn in 6 months and see a profit of 5717 in addition to the original investment (sorry 5617 paying labour rate to yourself and associated fees)? Breeding royals is absolutely rewarding and can turn a profit but it a long haul a LOT of work and in reality it takes 5 years for most to turn a profit and pay back wages if they ever do.

[Dave Green]

I know that this is not what the question is or even in the spirit. But from an investment point of view this is crazy if I bought 10oz of gold Feb last year (13180$) and sold it in August (18897$) you are telling me you can do better after all the expenses and costs and LABOUR associated with breeding you can turn in 6 months and see a profit of 5717 in addition to the original investment (sorry 5617 paying labour rate to yourself and associated fees)? Breeding royals is absolutely rewarding and can turn a profit but it a long haul a LOT of work and in reality it takes 5 years for most to turn a profit and pay back wages if they ever do.

You're thinking short term. Sure you may turn a quicker profit in six months if you timed it perfectly. However, it's never as easy as it seems to time sales of stocks or commodities. Plus, in your example, once you sold the gold you're done. If you buy a high end male you may have many years of nice production and profit. It's not easy but I think you would do much better even in a couple years with more years of production ahead. And this isn't hypothetical, I've done it more then once...

[kevinb]

I would get the stocking I should have in 2-3 years. It comes out to about $12,500 when all said and done

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[h00blah]

snakebytes did a really cool video on this subject

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKJfxcnH-kM

[WingedWolfPsion]

2 racks, 2 incubators, and a male Ultramel.

[Salamander Rising]

oh man, that would buy so many snakes, if i had everything else set-up and ready to care for them all, it'd be a big list,
caramel albino, clown, orange ghost, pied, desert, mojave, super pastel, black pastel, butter, genetic stripe, spinner, calico, enchi, and a pair of papuan olive pythons. maybe a pair of scrub pythons if i could squeeze them in there

What you said....LOL

[Reakt20]

Champagnes, ghi's, or het highways.

[CapeFearConstrictors]

I know that this is not what the question is or even in the spirit. But from an investment point of view this is crazy if I bought 10oz of gold Feb last year (13180$) and sold it in August (18897$) you are telling me you can do better after all the expenses and costs and LABOUR associated with breeding you can turn in 6 months and see a profit of 5717 in addition to the original investment (sorry 5617 paying labour rate to yourself and associated fees)? Breeding royals is absolutely rewarding and can turn a profit but it a long haul a LOT of work and in reality it takes 5 years for most to turn a profit and pay back wages if they ever do.

Let's do a little math with co-doms. Let's say you buy a single gene codom male for $5,000 in 2011. You get him to 800g and breed him in the 2012 breeding season. He successfully breeds three females, giving you 18 eggs. Out of those 18 eggs, you get 9 of the codom mutation. Prices have dropped 30%, so each one is now only worth $3,500. You sell all 9 for that price and make $31,500. Even if you take out expenses, you've made $25,000 from your $5,000 investment in one season. Think gold will do that well?

In the 2013 season, you breed him again, this time he gets 5 females to give you a total of 30 eggs. You get 15 of the mutation, but prices have dropped to $2,400. You sell them all for a total of $36,000. That's an even better return than the previous year.

Let's figure out the labor now. In the above scenario, let's say it takes you three hours a week to maintain that collection of less than 10 snakes. So that's 156 hours for two years of work. That earns you over $300 per hour of work.

This isn't including mixing that gene with other genes to make even more valuable animals. I think you can see where this is going. I guarantee your $5,000 investment in gold won't net you over $50,000 in two years. There are very few investments that can do that. It's true that the ball python market can be volatile, and there are risks associated with working with live animals, but if you spend your money wisely, you can make a very good return on your investment.

If you buy pastels and spiders and expect to make your money back in a season or two, you're kidding yourself. But if you spend good money on good investments, seeing a return in a single season isn't out of the realm of possibility.