well im right outside of philly so about 2 hours drive if im not mistaken, im just getting pack into bps and hots, sold my collection off a couple years ago when i moved to a unfriendly pet apartment, which im never doing again, but i remeber back around 2008 there would be some of us on this forum and others that would usually meet up at cabelas have lunch talk herps and all after a hamburg show, i do have to say its nice to see some prices drop on bps since i was last at a show so that just means more to stock up on, just harder to get some hots that im in the market for atm