Does your spider wobble?

[MasonC2K]

You really have to look to see the wobble in mine. Only noticable while handling. Even then you have to look for it. And he is an eating machine. Never refused a meal. Ever.

[akjadlnfkjfdkladf]

my girlfriend loves it when my bumblebee wobbles. i'm 100% sure she actually prefers it. she calls it "air dancing"

sometimes she'l be watching him and i'll hear "nice moves!"

[snakesRkewl]

ALL spiders wobble. I thought this was set in stone like 5 years ago?

Maybe all spiders and combos have the propensity to wobble, but not all do actually wobble.

I breed an almost 4 yr old bee that has absolutely zero wobble, no head tilt, nothing in anyway that shows any neurological issues and she produced nothing but solid no wobble hatchlings, "so far".
That's not to say the hatchlings will not wobble eventually because there is no guarantee.
I have raised a male spider that can corkscrew with the best of them, he didn't wobble for 8 months of his life, and then slowly but surely he's gotten worse and worse.

The only thing set in stone is death and taxes...

[akjadlnfkjfdkladf]

The only thing set in stone is death and taxes...

if you're smart just death

[Serpent_Nirvana]

I think the term "wobble" is just a general umbrella term for any neurological symptom displayed by an animal with the spider gene.

Interestingly, this is not unique to snakes. In both dogs and horses, animals born with a certain type of ataxia are often called "wobblers" or said to have "wobbler syndrome."

There are better, more accurate terms for the various causative disorders in these species (ie, cervical vertebral stenosis, etc.), but the umbrella term "wobbler" persists.

I think that a better name for what we see might be "Spider ball python neurologic syndrome" (at least until we can pinpoint a more specific cause), but that isn't as easy to say as "wobbler"

... In my little group:

Bumblebee male -- Has not changed since I got him as a small adult: will occasionally spin if stressed; may miss the prey on the first strike. Eats great and breeds like a machine.

Spider female -- No clinical signs at all until approximately three years old and >1500 grams or so. Now she spins, corkscrews, head-tilts, strikes inaccurately, etc. She went from being totally asymptomatic to the most affected spider morph I own. Still eats great, and always has.

Spinner male -- Mild head tilt/"off" acting when I first got him. Now at 1000 grams has no signs whatsoever. Eats like crazy.

... Both bee and spider will stop acting "neuro" if interrupted. Sometimes it seems as if the spinning is voluntary. I don't really know what to make of it.

So, for my limited sample size, I would say that yes, the vast majority of spiders and their crosses exhibit some degree of neurologic disease, and the vast majority of spiders have an excellent appetite and, interestingly, seem to thrive in captivity.

... I could talk all day about this subject, but I'll spare you, ha!

[Brandon Osborne]

Of all the spiders I've had, none of them show signs of wobble. I notice only a very slight head shake when getting ready to strike at food, but I have noticed that in other morphs as well. I have seen zero in my animals.

I will say, in my opinion, spiders are probably one of the most prolific and hardy ball morphs out there. They are bullet-proof.

[Quiet Tempest]

So far I've not seen any wobble in my female spider. I didn't want to purchase a spider or work with spider combos because of all the threads I'd read on the issue but she was actually a won by my little girl in a raffle drawing last year and we really like her. I've kept watch over her looking for any wobble or odd behavior but so far there's been nothing out of the ordinary and she's a terrific eater. Maybe things will change as she gets closer to breeding size and we'll start noticing some neuro issues. I don't know. We'll just have to wait and see I guess but for now she's no different than any of the rest of our balls.

[bad-one]

My spider's wobble started as a moderate wobble/corkscrew as a young snake but has become very subtle as she has matured. Now I rarely even see her wobble, much less corkscrew

[WingedWolfPsion]

Most of my spiders wobble, a few don't.
Some of my womas wobble too, some don't.
I don't worry about it overly much, as it seems to come and go with age and stress in many cases. A woma female with no wobble who was fully mature, developed one after a move.

Whatever causes the spider-webbing pattern which both spider and woma share, it must also cause this neurological or inner ear issue.

No big deal--it doesn't appear to cause them any distress. Real impairment from it is pretty rare.

[Gomojoe]

Does anyone have a spider that is a poor eater? From what I have read of people's experience it seems the wobble may actually have a positive benefit in making them robust eaters.


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