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    Re: which ball pythons should i get?

    Honestly u need to learn a little more before u go and spend $3300.00......i wish i would of took my time and did some research before just going and buying....take your time and do some research..but for now go and buy your favorite morph and then take it from there...build around that....
    MALES.. 1.0 Coral glow Mojave... 1.0 Coral glow Scaleless head... 1.0 Coral glow Het Pied.. 1.0 Orange dream pastel.. 1.0 Black head Pastel Rng Rg.. 1.0 Calico Yellowbelly.. FEMALES.. 0.1 Bumblebee Scaleless head.. 0.1 Black Pastel 66 Axantic.. 0.1 Leopard Lesser Pastel.. 0.1 Champange Pastel.. 0.1 Pastel Het Pied.. 0.1 Enchi… 0.1 GHI.. 0.1 Het Albino.. 0.1 Mojave.. 0.1 Normal....

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    Re: which ball pythons should i get?

    i was thinking of a het albino instead of a normal. i will get pastels from the bumble bee. i wont be buying any snake untill the summer. still need to get the rack and everything.

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    I think your missing the points that have been brought up. But good luck on your project wish you well

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    Re: which ball pythons should i get?

    i got the point that i need to research more. but what should i research? ive had normal ball pythons in the past that i never bred. i know i should only get a few and fill my rack slow. thats my plan im just trying to get a final list of what i want so i dont see somthing for a good price and buy it then find out 6 months later that i dont have any need for it.

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    Breed for the love of it.. Not for the profits that could be made... Thats my two cents.

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    Re: which ball pythons should i get?

    Quote Originally Posted by armison89 View Post
    i dont want cheap snake i want qulity low range morphs.

    hows this list?

    4 normal males
    Bumble Bee female
    Mojave female
    fire female
    enchi female
    Lesser Platinums female
    het piebald male
    het piebald female
    pinstripe female
    albino female
    vanilla female
    You don't need the normal males. If anything, it would be normal females and morph males. It's better budget wise since male morphs are cheaper than females. And female normals breed just as well as morph females. Plus you can get multiple morph males breeding to a single normal female and get multiple morphs in a single clutch. Normal males are close to pointless in breeding morphs. You're wasting money buying normal males. They have nothing to contribute. Why breed normal males to a morph female? You can be breeding her to another morph male. In BP breeding, females are slithering gold! Even breeding sized normal females are worth a lot!

    So for example:

    Some from your list:
    4 normal males: ~$15 x 4 = $60
    Lesser female: ~$350-400
    Albino female: $400
    Total:$810-860

    Change the gender:
    4 normal females: ~$20 x 4 = $80
    Lesser male: ~ $250-300
    Albino male: $300-350
    Total: $630-730

    These prices are based on my own personal dealings with hatchlings... (may be cheaper or more expensive depending on various factors such as local vs online dealings, Hatchling vs adult prices, etc etc.)
    But look at the price difference. Just by looking at 3 different kinds of BPs, you can save a few hundred dollars. And w/ my example, you can breed 4 different females with 2 morph males and come up w/ half a clutch of morphs/hets. That alone is worth a lot compared to breeding normal males to morph females.

    You can still get morph females too, but I just wanted to point out that normal males are useless for breeding.

    And maybe instead of buying so many base morphs to fill your rack, perhaps buy a few double gene animals. That way you get multiple morphs in one snake and have extra room in your rack. Just like what you're doing w/ that bumble bee. Instead of having to make room for a pastel and spider, you can just house the bee in one tub. Perhaps look into morph hets instead of just normal hets/visual hets? For example, getting a mojave het pied/albino or something. Double gene animals cost more, but in the long run are more cost efficient. Rather than housing, feeding, cleaning 2 different animals, you can save half the time/space/money on just one animal.

    Like others have suggested, do a little more research before you acquire any more snakes. It looks like you're taking a harder more expensive route. Sit down and write down your breeding plan. Don't rush into anything. Many of the people here are giving great advice. Their words are based on their own personal experiences and mistakes.
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    Re: which ball pythons should i get?

    Satomi well said....
    MALES.. 1.0 Coral glow Mojave... 1.0 Coral glow Scaleless head... 1.0 Coral glow Het Pied.. 1.0 Orange dream pastel.. 1.0 Black head Pastel Rng Rg.. 1.0 Calico Yellowbelly.. FEMALES.. 0.1 Bumblebee Scaleless head.. 0.1 Black Pastel 66 Axantic.. 0.1 Leopard Lesser Pastel.. 0.1 Champange Pastel.. 0.1 Pastel Het Pied.. 0.1 Enchi… 0.1 GHI.. 0.1 Het Albino.. 0.1 Mojave.. 0.1 Normal....

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    Re: which ball pythons should i get?

    First off I have never understood why people ask this question. Get the snakes that you like the look of or that will be a means to an end for a project that you like. Also 7 males is not a good idea. I have a ton of males and half just sit around with no female to breed them to and they are another tub to clean and mouth to feed. Why dont you try getting a few females and 2 double gene males to start? It will be easier on you trust me. and your list makes no sense.
    Last edited by Domepiece; 11-30-2011 at 04:11 PM.

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    Re: which ball pythons should i get?

    this is why im asking so i dont spend money in the wrong place. i dont have any snakes right now.

    if i get 14 snakes how many males should i have? 3?

    these are the snake i want to have:
    Pinstripe
    Spider
    albino
    Ghost
    Piebald
    Vanilla
    Pastel
    Mojave
    Lesser Platinums
    Fire
    Enchi
    Cinnamon

    what will be the best way to get these morphs?
    i want your opinions good or bad.

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    I would get 4 males and the rest females. Remember that some of thoes on your list are recessive and therefor wont produce a visible morph unless bred with at a minimum a het. (IE pied and albino) Now since you dont have any snakes if I was you I would get a snake or 2 and see if its something you want to do in a few years, Too many people jump in head first and relize its not what they want to do. That or they think they will become the next BHB and end up selling off everything at a major loss
    1.1 Het Albino Ball 1.0 Spider
    1.0 Mojave Ball 0.1 Pinstripe
    0.1 Honey Bee 0.2 Normal
    1.0 Caramel 0.1 Mojave het Caramel

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