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    Don't forget that condensation is a product of humidity AND temps! If you room is cool you will get condensation until the room and tub have the same humidity. If my room hit 66-7º and the tubs are at 50-60% I have condensation. If the room temps lift some it goes away. Condensing water from air takes a cool to warm temps. Think about a glass in the freezer it goes in clear come out clear and frosts up in a warm room.
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    Re: Another humidity issue, but I can't keep it DOWN!*condensation*

    kitedemon - wow! i just got a science lesson! thx, lol.
    i know heat + water = humidity
    but thought
    humidity + no escape = condensation...

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    I'm curious why the bedding isn't aspen?
    I use the same tubs for my juveniles, with water bowls large enough for them to fit in comfortably. I get one-piece sheds and meals are never skipped. However, my snake room never drops below about 75•F. Maybe you should try the aspen.


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    Re: Another humidity issue, but I can't keep it DOWN!*condensation*

    Quote Originally Posted by mommanessy247 View Post
    kitedemon - wow! i just got a science lesson! thx, lol.
    i know heat + water = humidity
    but thought
    humidity + no escape = condensation...
    Not necessarily but it can or not, it depends on conditions.

    humidity + temperature difference = condensation

    ventilation partially alters the temperature difference some but not completely and changes the humidity. It is easy to prove to yourself. Just take a bag that is clear out of the freezer and wait a few min and it will have some condensation on it how much depends on the amount of humidity in the kitchen. I have low humidity in my place about 38% today and I get some but lots.

    100% humidity condenses on slight temp differences but at 10% it takes larger temps to start condensation. If everything is the same temp and moderate humidity there will be no condensation at all.
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    I hate using aspen with my BP because he passes so much liquid when he defecates. I'll get a TON of condensation and ammonia smell because the aspen doesn't absorb it and it sits underneath on the bottom of the tub. I of course try to be vigilant, but about once a month I switch to paper towels, which makes clean up MUCH easier and keeps me from missing things and getting unhealthy condensation/ammonia buildup.
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    Re: Another humidity issue, but I can't keep it DOWN!*condensation*

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlasStrike View Post
    Does she soak? Atlas never did even when he had the whole dog bowl thing. Now he has just a little thing for drinking, and I stick him in the sink around shed time. Humidity is much more stable that way.
    You shouldn't be soaking a snake before a shed, and neither should the OP.
    It removes oils from their body that help with the shedding process..


    To the OP - I also will second the motion of getting a smaller water dish, and drying out that coco fiber will help a lot.
    Like Kitedemon said ... room temps definitely affect things.
    Last edited by Jessica Loesch; 11-30-2011 at 01:54 PM.

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    Not a fan of aspen or wood chip substrates myself. A little drier environment and a bit warmer room and it will go away.

    I use coco earth type too and use some water to expand the compacted stuff but I mix loose with it. The loose is way more expensive but a huge bag is still only 15$ so...

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    Wow, so much to reply to. *.*
    First thing I feel like I should clear up is- I don't soak Kallista. The closest I've ever been to soaking her was wiping her down with a wet paper towel because she was messy. XD
    I just want her to have the option to if she wants to soak. But if the humidity's alright, and she doesn't have to, then I can decrease the size of the dish..
    My room is about 69-73*F.

    I don't use aspen for a couple reasons) 1, it's really rough, I dislike the feel and the smell of it, it's difficult to spot clean(my type that is) and it gave Kallista a weird smell too. O.o
    And I just don't like it.


    This morning there was not any condensation in the tub. Hopefully it helped by drying it out with my heat lamp and a fan for about two hours before I put her back. I kept the fan going and this morning, even though she dumped her water, there was nothing. :3

    Hopefully I can keep things undercontrol.
    Thanks for all the replies and help!
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    Re: Another humidity issue, but I can't keep it DOWN!*condensation*

    Quote Originally Posted by fluffpuffgerbil View Post
    Wow, so much to reply to. *.*
    First thing I feel like I should clear up is- I don't soak Kallista. The closest I've ever been to soaking her was wiping her down with a wet paper towel because she was messy. XD
    I just want her to have the option to if she wants to soak. But if the humidity's alright, and she doesn't have to, then I can decrease the size of the dish..
    My room is about 69-73*F.

    I don't use aspen for a couple reasons) 1, it's really rough, I dislike the feel and the smell of it, it's difficult to spot clean(my type that is) and it gave Kallista a weird smell too. O.o
    And I just don't like it.


    This morning there was not any condensation in the tub. Hopefully it helped by drying it out with my heat lamp and a fan for about two hours before I put her back. I kept the fan going and this morning, even though she dumped her water, there was nothing. :3

    Hopefully I can keep things undercontrol.
    Thanks for all the replies and help!
    If there's anything I forgot to reply to, let me know.
    I was hoping you didn't, but when people started talking about it I wanted to make sure they were in the know.

    I agree on aspen....

    Good to hear things are better

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    Yeah, I heard that soaking them, especially before a shed, can mess with the natural oils in their skin and cause them to have a bad shed
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    0.1 gargoyle gecko(Rory/Freckles)

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