The Spider Problem?

[interloc]

One thing about spiders that a few people touched on is their personality. My normal adult male will coil round my neck for hours and rarely move. My spider however slithers around and is much more interesting to handle. Yes all spiders have some form of wobble ( I was worried bout it too) but man are they a blast to have in your collection. They have more of the personality of a boa then a ball. LOVE EM! Oh and all morphs of spiders carry the wobble gene and he personality.

[andyroof1979]

my spider does the full on corkscrew, he has no problems eating.

[andyroof1979]

does anyone know if the intensity of the wobble is passed on in breeding?

[heathers*bps]

I don't think the severity of the wobble is passed on, though the wobble is definitely passed on with any spider/spider morph.

I have a pair of spiders, my male barely wobbles while my female does have a head shaking thing going on, more when its feeding time than anything. I love spiders, and the morphs they make, and their wobble wouldn't deter me from owning one

[wwmjkd]

First off I have more spider females in my collection than any other base morph. I love these girls you would be hard pressed to find a ball python with the feeding response of my female spiders. The wobble is usually not a big deal. In my opinion all spiders have wobble to some degree, but my animals only show any signs of wobble during feeding, one female will from time to time will invert her head a bit, but these problems are relatively minor. I would not rule out a champagne in my collection because they have similar problems I actually want a champagne BAD.

In my opinion the spider wobble is over exaggerated, but it is something you need to understand before buying one

this is the first I've heard of champagnes having a comparable neurological issue to spiders. I've heard of a few problems with them, but never that they have a wobble like spiders (and potentially womas). would you mind sharing your references, either in this thread or a pm? like you, champs are one of my favorite ball morphs, base or otherwise, and dave green is working with some amazing animals.

[ReptilesK2]

My male spider has a slight wobble, but hes my best feeder and breeder!
My female spider has no wobble at all, shes also a very good eater!

[AK907]

What gets me is how many people, especially breeders or those selling their spiders, swear that their spiders have no wobble. This is an instant red flag for me because ALL spiders wobble. I will not buy from someone who claims this. Some are more subtle than others or require excitement/stress to bring it to full effect, but they ALL do it. Also those who claim their spiders only throw no (or low) wobble babies. Bologna!

[jjmitchell]

this is the first I've heard of champagnes having a comparable neurological issue to spiders. I've heard of a few problems with them, but never that they have a wobble like spiders (and potentially womas). would you mind sharing your references, either in this thread or a pm? like you, champs are one of my favorite ball morphs, base or otherwise, and dave green is working with some amazing animals.

This is a thread from bush league breeders that is about a year old..... I read the entire thread and several people that have champagnes, including some of the first to produce them chime in with on the subject.http://www.reptileradio.net/reptiler...t=champ+wobble
I will pm the info to you as well just incase

[zeion97]

Wow... I never expected this many replies.... I can't possibly say individual comments to everyone, but thank you everyone. I asked this question Because I plan on purchasing a spider in February or March, and always hearing of "wobble" pushed me away... Thank you everyone, I know what my next morph will be.