Vote for BP.Net for the 2013 Forum of the Year! Click here for more info.

» Site Navigation

» Home
 > FAQ

» Online Users: 776

0 members and 776 guests
No Members online
Most users ever online was 47,180, 07-16-2025 at 05:30 PM.

» Today's Birthdays

None

» Stats

Members: 75,903
Threads: 249,097
Posts: 2,572,069
Top Poster: JLC (31,651)
Welcome to our newest member, wkeith67
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 17
  1. #1
    Registered User
    Join Date
    11-22-2011
    Posts
    20
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts

    Female blood breeding question

    How old do they have to be and what's a good ball park weight, was kinda interested in making some super balls this year

    And probably a stupid question but I'd like to know, is it safe to house a blood and a ball for anything other then trying to breed?
    Last edited by Yeti; 11-24-2011 at 12:55 PM.
    Reptiles are everything to me.
    1.0 Spider ball (Legion)
    1.1 Pastel ball (Bonnie, Mohommad)
    3.0 Regular ball (George, Eight, Clyde)
    0.1 Borneo red blood python het T+ (Miss Bi**h)
    1.0 Kenyan sand boa (Tremor)
    0.1 True SD tiger reticulated python (r.i.p)
    1.0 Savannah monitor (Tony)
    1.0 Nigerian Uromastyx (Vito)
    7.11 Crested Geckos multiple morphs
    1.0 Mainland Rhachodactylus Chahoua gecko (Chewy)
    0.1 Reticulated gargoyle gecko (Baby girl)
    0.1 normal tokay gecko (Pitty)
    3.4 leopard geckos multiple morphs (Blizz, Missy, Rain)
    0.1 Tortie Cat (Messy)
    1.0 Chihuahua (Kilo)

    My collection to date *nov 22 2011*

  2. #2
    BPnet Lifer mainbutter's Avatar
    Join Date
    09-30-2008
    Location
    Washington, DC
    Posts
    5,690
    Thanks
    269
    Thanked 1,374 Times in 1,053 Posts
    Images: 7
    Safe to house them together? The difference in husbandry would be a big 'no-no' for me.

    For breeding, it seems they tend to take longer than some other species to get up to size. From what I've read, most females seem to have their first clutch at 3-4 years old. I'd care more about age than weight personally. My May 2010 female now weighs under 3 pounds, at 3 years old I have a good feeling she'll have broken 10lbs.

    Keep in mind that the successful hybrid projects involve multiple animals of both species and usually requires more than a single season to have any success.

  3. #3
    BPnet Lifer decensored's Avatar
    Join Date
    08-04-2011
    Location
    Durham, ON
    Posts
    2,916
    Thanks
    2,823
    Thanked 916 Times in 707 Posts
    Images: 102
    Your not going to find a whole lot of support on this forum when making hybrid animals. Husbandry is different for both animals and you shouldn't house two balls together never mind a ball and a blood. Blood Pythons are more territorial and aggressive than ball pythons and you will probably end up with a dead ball python on your hands. Bloods are a much bigger species of python and shouldn't be breed much before 10lbs, were Ball Pythons can be breed at 2lbs.. When dealing with adults; balls usually fall under 10lbs, where bloods are often 3x that weight. Making Hybrids is very difficult, dangerous at times, and time consuming. They are not really sought after on the market or widely accepted in the community.

    Cheers.

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to decensored For This Useful Post:

    snakey68 (01-31-2012)

  5. #4
    BPnet Veteran mr.spooky's Avatar
    Join Date
    07-25-2009
    Posts
    874
    Thanks
    186
    Thanked 266 Times in 177 Posts
    Images: 1

    Re: Female blood breeding question

    here we go again,,,, no your probabally not going to find a whole lotta support here,, and thats a shame,,, anyway,, ill support ya!!!!
    husbandry IS NOT that much different, and you HAVE to house two animals together if you want them to breed... i might be wrong,,, but i dont remember reading that bloods are more territoral than balls,, and i have balls that are way more agressive than my bloods,, .. it would be nice if the previous poster could produce facts.
    i currentaly am doing a hybrid project, and i have ended up with NO dead balls on my hands,,, LOL..... youll need to overlook the people that are here to hate.......
    now, after saying that,,, i keep a close eye when i pair,,,, and the size difference IS kinda funny.. just be careful with your animals...
    keep in mind that when talking about hybrids, you have to be responsible in the actions you take as to what you do with the offspring,,, but only you can control that... hybrids are kinda new territory, so as hybrid breeders or wanna be breeders, it is our responsibility to be responsible.........
    spooky
    Last edited by mr.spooky; 11-24-2011 at 03:40 PM.

  6. #5
    BPnet Veteran mr.spooky's Avatar
    Join Date
    07-25-2009
    Posts
    874
    Thanks
    186
    Thanked 266 Times in 177 Posts
    Images: 1

    Re: Female blood breeding question

    wishing there was a hybrid section
    spooky

  7. #6
    BPnet Lifer mainbutter's Avatar
    Join Date
    09-30-2008
    Location
    Washington, DC
    Posts
    5,690
    Thanks
    269
    Thanked 1,374 Times in 1,053 Posts
    Images: 7

    Re: Female blood breeding question

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.spooky View Post
    husbandry IS NOT that much different, and you HAVE to house two animals together if you want them to breed
    1) The big husbandry issue for me is hot spots and ambients. For adult bloods, I like to have a consistent ~83-84 degrees and no hot spot. Ball pythons, I tend to do a typical belly-heat setup with variable ambients based on season and ~90 or just above hot spots.

    2) There is a difference between "housing them together" year 'round and temporarily placing them together for breeding purposes. I would NOT be happy keeping a blood python in one of my ball python setups, nor vice versa, all year.

    That said, more power to the OP and yourself for a hybrid project. It's difficult enough already.

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to mainbutter For This Useful Post:

    decensored (11-24-2011)

  9. #7
    BPnet Veteran mr.spooky's Avatar
    Join Date
    07-25-2009
    Posts
    874
    Thanks
    186
    Thanked 266 Times in 177 Posts
    Images: 1

    Re: Female blood breeding question

    Quote Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    1) The big husbandry issue for me is hot spots and ambients. For adult bloods, I like to have a consistent ~83-84 degrees and no hot spot. Ball pythons, I tend to do a typical belly-heat setup with variable ambients based on season and ~90 or just above hot spots.

    2) There is a difference between "housing them together" year 'round and temporarily placing them together for breeding purposes. I would NOT be happy keeping a blood python in one of my ball python setups, nor vice versa, all year.

    That said, more power to the OP and yourself for a hybrid project. It's difficult enough already.
    agreed!
    my animals are set up about the same as what you have described, so for breeding purposes, there about the same...
    and i as well would NO WAY,,, NO HOW keep these animals together year round.
    BTW,,, thanks for your support!
    spooky

  10. #8
    Registered User Xeperxi's Avatar
    Join Date
    09-09-2011
    Location
    Royal Oak, MI
    Posts
    160
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 37 Times in 35 Posts

    Re: Female blood breeding question

    I agree, I too wish there was a hybrid section on this forum. To the OP please share any info you find as I am always interested in reading from those attempting at ball/ blood breeding

  11. #9
    BPnet Veteran mr.spooky's Avatar
    Join Date
    07-25-2009
    Posts
    874
    Thanks
    186
    Thanked 266 Times in 177 Posts
    Images: 1

    Re: Female blood breeding question

    Quote Originally Posted by Yeti View Post
    How old do they have to be and what's a good ball park weight, was kinda interested in making some super balls this year

    And probably a stupid question but I'd like to know, is it safe to house a blood and a ball for anything other then trying to breed?
    how old/big is your female?
    spooky

  12. #10
    BPnet Lifer decensored's Avatar
    Join Date
    08-04-2011
    Location
    Durham, ON
    Posts
    2,916
    Thanks
    2,823
    Thanked 916 Times in 707 Posts
    Images: 102
    I stand by everything I said earlier. But, don't get me wrong I'm not against hybrid animals and I think they are very cool. I have a problem with people breeding them with the intent to introduce them into the market. How often do you see posts with people buying snakes as "fancy ball pythons," etc. Or if they end up in rescues or shelters people who run them wont necessarily know what they are.

    A lot of people are against them for reasons I can understand. I personally want an angry ball (Angolian X Regius) for my own personal pet. I would never sell it, and I would never introduce it to the market for ANY REASON. I have a problem with people breeding them for sale.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.1