well at the store i get my LIVE mice from, they are around house size mice if you dont know about what size tht is, im going to get a mouse later today, ill post pics, and a video of the feeding just for us herps at bp.net anyway it was night, i just switched hides form half logs to bowls with a hole cut in them due to day time roaming, that stopped automatically, but hes been at the top of his tank all night when i got up, he was still at the very top, i think ghe fell asleep tht way, but when i opened it, he caught his self nd slithered under his vine. he constantly stays under his vine, should i remove it? or leave it, back to the point, getting a "house sized mouse, if you dont know what size tht is, ill post a pic of it under this thread for you guys and gals . thanks for the support so far.