Ok.. I want to point out that several people have already poined out how mfuch materials and time to manufacture rack cost..... Now stop and price a CNC Router... When you realize what the equpment and tools cost to manufacture these racks it is doubtful that you would want to give them away. I currently use AP racks, and hope to move up to ars racks in the future. I look at the price tag of a rack as an investment. Saying racks are to expensive is like saying I gotta ice chest who needs a refridgerator