Some cinnies certainly do display a few squiggly lines making identification a bit trickier.
From the pictures posted at the beginning of the thread I would say they are definitely both cinnies.
If you breed cinny X black pastel your odds of producing an 8-ball are the same as if it was two cinnies trying to make a super cinny.
sorry you missed the odds, 1 in 4 doesn't always happen especially if it was a small clutch
black pastel hatchling
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