Question about breeding desert females!

[PythonOutlaw]

You have some good points, And yes I agree people should do research on what they buy, but I also I think the breeder should inform there buyers by posting something on there site.

I know if I was a breeder, theres no way I would be selling desert females without properly informing/educating the buyer before they intend to purchuse that particualr morph

[muddoc]

There is some great factual information in this thread.

[meowmeowkazoo]

There is some great factual information in this thread.

So far I haven't seen any facts, just opinions and speculation.

[The Hedgehog]

There is some great factual information in this thread.

Isn't there??

[CapeFearConstrictors]

I find it pretty sad that Alot of reputable high end breeders are still selling desert females at a high cost and not making it aware to possible buyers of the problems people are having with deserts and breeding! Im sure there is plenty of people buying them that are unaware of the problems. Kind of shady of the breeders if you ask me

Hmm... how do you know that a lot of reputable high end breeders are not disclosing this to their customers? Have you bought desert females from them or do you know someone who has?

Deserts have been around a while, but not in mass quantities. Obviously, there is something going on with the females, but we haven't had enough time to come to the conclusion that desert females will never lay viable eggs. It was only earlier this year when the idea of lowering temperatures for desert females came up. This idea came from looking at the husbandry of someone who did get a desert female to lay viable eggs.

I have a male desert, and I haven't regretted the purchase once. He's amazing and will produce amazing combos. Will I sell the females? Absolutely. I will also make sure anyone interested in them is aware of what we know about deserts at the time. I will also price them accordingly. If we haven't cracked the code by the time I have them, the females will be priced significantly lower. Not likely "pet" prices, but lower than the males.

[jjmitchell]

I dont know... I dont own a desert so I have no dog in this fight. I love the way they look, but untill someone comes out with some sort of proof that females will produce I will not have one in my collection. It may happen this season, and it may never happen.

I have heard everything from they have to be over 2kilos to the temperature thing. I love the look of desert morphs, but for that money I could grab up a superstripe, crystal, or something else that I have been drooling over.

[Monster Dodge]

Hmm... how do you know that a lot of reputable high end breeders are not disclosing this to their customers? Have you bought desert females from them or do you know someone who has?

Deserts have been around a while, but not in mass quantities. Obviously, there is something going on with the females, but we haven't had enough time to come to the conclusion that desert females will never lay viable eggs. It was only earlier this year when the idea of lowering temperatures for desert females came up. This idea came from looking at the husbandry of someone who did get a desert female to lay viable eggs.

I have a male desert, and I haven't regretted the purchase once. He's amazing and will produce amazing combos. Will I sell the females? Absolutely. I will also make sure anyone interested in them is aware of what we know about deserts at the time. I will also price them accordingly. If we haven't cracked the code by the time I have them, the females will be priced significantly lower. Not likely "pet" prices, but lower than the males.

Hey Josh, I dig your vids on Youtube man! When your unboxing your snakes you get I am probably just as excited as you are to see them come out of the bag lookin all amazing and what not hahah!

[CapeFearConstrictors]

Thanks Chris! I've got a lot of videos planned. I just have to find time to make them.

Let's not derail this thread though. Drop me a PM or email if you want to chat.

[Lorgakor]

Give it time, later in the day today the desert squad will be here defending them.

Just doesnt take this long for a Dominant gene to prove fertile or infertile at all. Some say cooler temps will be the trick but thats waste of time. Ball pythons are all the same just different paint jobs. To say one needs cooler temps than another is absurd when their genetically the same whether normal or albino or desert.

But they are obviously not all genetically the same, if they were you would not see some morphs with wobbles, kinks, infertility etc. etc, while other morphs have none. They would all be the same.

[spitzu]

I'm leaning towards keeping back all of my desert females just so I can experiment with them and be the first to produce a super