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Re: Is obesity ever actually a concern for male ball pythons?
 Originally Posted by rabernet
My 2000 gram lemon pastel male is one of my best breeders. And he's pretty lean looking. I actually DO choose to keep my adults leaner than others do. I do worry about things like fatty liver disease. I know someone who lost a snake out of the blue, had it necropsied and that was the cause of death.
Fatty liver disease! So it does sound like obesity can be a problem. Was it a male ball python? And were they any signs that this particular animal was clearly overweight, or was it really out of the blue?
But yeah, I'm slow-growing my snakes, too. Not so much intentionally---they just seem to grow a bit slower when you keep them on a strict f/t diet. And if I run out of f/t on a given day, I'll tend to favor the girls over the boys.
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My male Mojo Julius is somewhere around 2000g (haven't weighed him in a while), and at only 2 years old has already produced 11 beautiful babies. He's possibly a little chunky, but definitely not obese or unhealthy - just a big boy!! Btw, he feeds on 2-3 live adult mice weekly, and will occasionally take a f/t small rat instead.
I do have a corn snake who's obese, weighing in at a whopping 1190g last time I checked... normal weight for an adult female corn is 500-700g, FYI. She was already that size when I adopted her, and is probably around 14 years old now. So she's lived to a ripe old age, and aside from a fatty deposit near her cloaca, seems to be in decent health. I've had her on a diet for the last couple of years, but so far it's been futile (and pointless at her age).
Last edited by Lolo76; 10-30-2011 at 06:25 AM.
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Ball Pythons: 0.4 Normals, 1.0 Pastel, 1.1 Mojaves, 1.0 Black Pastel, 2.0 Spiders, 0.1 Lesser, 1.0 Orange Ghost, 0.1 Honeybee
0.1 Spotted Python, 1.1 Stimson's Pythons, 1.0 Jungle Carpet Python
3.4 Corn Snakes, 1.1 Western Hognose Snakes, 1.2 cats, and 1.0 dog (47lb mutt)
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Re: Is obesity ever actually a concern for male ball pythons?
 Originally Posted by Lolo76
I do have a corn snake who's obese, weighing in at a whopping 1190g last time I checked... normal weight for an adult female corn is 500-700g, FYI.  She was already that size when I adopted her, and is probably around 14 years old now. So she's lived to a ripe old age, and aside from a fatty deposit near her cloaca, seems to be in decent health. I've had her on a diet for the last couple of years, but so far it's been futile (and pointless at her age).
A fat corn snake! Fat. Corn. Snake. Now there's something you gotta post pictures of.
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Re: Is obesity ever actually a concern for male ball pythons?
 Originally Posted by loonunit
A fat corn snake! Fat. Corn. Snake. Now there's something you gotta post pictures of.
Yes I agree: I'd love to see pics of her as well! I love the "giants"
~Angelica~
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4.15 Ball Pythons
1.1 Angolan Pythons
2.2 Cali Kings_______________________0.1 SSTP Black Blood
1.1 T+ Argentine BCOs______________1.0 Snow Bull
1.3 Colombian morph BCIs___________0.1 Coastal Carpet
0.1 Hog Island BCI__________________0.1 Platinum Retic
0.1 Het Anery BCL __________________0.1 Lavender Albino Citron Retic
0.2 Central American morph BCIs_____1.0 Blonde/Caramel Retic
0.1 Pokigron Suriname BCC__________0.1 Goldenchild Retic
0.0.1 Corn
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Hmm.. I have 2010 male pied who is coming in at 1450 grams now and he really doesn't seem obese at all. He is active and has a great appetite. I could hardly keep him still for this picture. He comes from a WC grandmother who is HUGE, so he definitely has it in his genetics to be big. I can only guess how big she was, but she had to be at least 5000 grams. Here is a pic. Oh, and I would also like to see that fat corn snake!
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