Quote Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
So how do you quantify happiness in a ball python? Most of us who work with them will quantify it with the fact that they eat, breed and grow. Unhappy = stressed. Stressed = not eating, not breeding, contracting illnesses as a result of a suppressed immune system from being stressed.
That doesn't always happen. A stressed animal could still eat, breed, and not contract illnesses. I'm sure they don't like having involuntary muscle movements. You can't deny that.



I did read it.
Quote Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
I am not pretending nor lying. I tell everyone that all spiders spin. I also tell them that it's been my personal experience, working with them, that the majority of them are unaffected in their quality of life by this condition.

You don't own one, you've only observed them at shows. You have no hands on experience working with them that would lend you the legitimacy to determine that it's so bad.
What about the minority?