Agree with everything that you just said. Im just mad about it because of the principal. I could care less about the actual breeding. Thats why I gave him the YB back also. I have a couple females that im going to breed. The whole breeding loan wasnt even my Idea. He came to me about it. I dont know that she is gravid but the chance is there that she will have a clutch from my male. Either way.... Like I said ill do my own thing.