Breeding Loan Gone Very BAD!!

[TKByrnes21783]

So a friend/Breeder decided he had a female Joliff Tiger het Ghost that he wasnt going to breed this year. Im just getting into breeding and he said he would loan me the Tiger het Ghost to throw my pastel male on. We were friends and figured ok cool. Even agreed to split the clutch with him. So my Pastel has locked with this Tiger 3 times visual lock. Maybe more unknown. Today he calls me and says he needs the Tiger back because he wants to put it in a trade with some other stuff to get a BEL. Im sooooo mad right now! Its not about the breeding at this point. Its a fact of I thought he was my friend and cant believe he did this. Now He will possibly have a clutch of snakes that should be half mine!

[cmack91]

thats messed up, i dont really have any advice but im sorry your "friend" is trying to screw you on that

[zach_24_90]

this is why you always get some signed papers agreeing to the terms of the loan.. friend or not its just safer to have a written agreement.

[TKByrnes21783]

Thanks. I know there isnt really anything I can do other than learn from this. Funny thing is He did this. Lost a friend and the guy who he wants to trade with doesnt want anythiing to do with the snake that I was breeding.

[piedplus]

If you had a verbal contract to keep his female until she clutches, then you have every right to keep her until then. If anything was written down, even better.

[BbyBoa]

dont give her back till you get your clutch ... simple.

[TKByrnes21783]

Yea never again will I do a breeding loan without papers signed.

[TKByrnes21783]

I already gave her back. I really dont want to associate myself with people like that. I also had his yellow belly male that locked with my norm female 4 times. Gave him the YB back also. I told him I want nothing to do with him or his snakes.

[BbyBoa]

Yea never again will I do a breeding loan without papers signed.

A verbal contract or handshake is binding in the US court system. Should have kept the snake. Oh well didn't really lose anything, but you could have gained a good bit.

[TKByrnes21783]

Yea I could have. But like I said I dont need people like that in my life. Someone that is willing to lose a friend because he got greedy and couldnt wait till I was done with her is not someone I want to be around.

I think what it came down to is... One night I showed him a pic of some pastel tigers and he decided he wanted to have the whole clutch. Dont know that for sure but it doesnt really matter. Ill do my own thing!