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    Re: Do all morphs get "head wobble"?

    all spiders and spider morphs have it genetically, but any snake can get it although its rare
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    I was really nervous about the wobble, as my first BP is a bumblebee. He's fine most of the time, I really only see it right after he eats. I guess because he's all worked up over it. He did strike and miss completely the other night, but that's unusual for him. 95% of the time, he's perfectly normal, and that other 5% hasn't been a real issue yet.


    I guess what I'm trying to say is I wouldn't let the wobble scare me off of spiders. Spider combos are among my favorite morphs, and as long as the snake isn't flailing around constantly and having trouble eating I don't see the wobble as a huge issue.

    I'm more nervous about the kinking in the caramel albinos, honestly. XD
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    my female norm has a wobble after she gets done eating and when i put my male in the tank with her.

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    I've never seen a spider that did not exhibit 'spider-y' movement. Whether it's a wobble, head tilt, corkscrewing.. they've all exhibited oddball behavior.

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    My spider's wobble progressed to the extreme over time.

    I'm surprised to hear some other morphs CAN get it, but spiders have it at birth no matter what anyone tells you.
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    ALL Spiders wobble. Whether it is extreme or almost non-existant. Some even kill Spider babies for an extreme wobble, it is quite sad since it doesn't really bother their ability to eat or breed. From what I have seen, Spiders are some of the more aggressive eaters and breeders.

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    A wobble isn't necessarily a trait that should put you off. I find it rather endearing. You should choose whatever morph you like best, then buy it from a reputable breeder.
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    Spider "Head Wobble": This term refers to a trait that virtually all spiders show. In most cases, a spider will show slight movement, or wobbling of the head when the snake holds its head off the ground. In more severe cases, the snake may seem to lose orientation when it is excited or agitated. Nearly all spiders showing this trait live normal, healthy lives. It seems that the trait is just something we have to live with to have this beautiful pattern in our collections.
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    Re: Do all morphs get "head wobble"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShockBunny View Post
    I was really nervous about the wobble, as my first BP is a bumblebee. He's fine most of the time, I really only see it right after he eats. I guess because he's all worked up over it.
    I guess what I'm trying to say is I wouldn't let the wobble scare me off of spiders. Spider combos are among my favorite morphs, and as long as the snake isn't flailing around constantly and having trouble eating I don't see the wobble as a huge issue.

    I'm more nervous about the kinking in the caramel albinos, honestly. XD
    If you are 'nervous' about ANY animal, you shouldn't get it. just because it isn't flailing around constantly doesn't mean much. It's knowing that certain animals have that problem, then trying to get the odds of them having that gene when you breed them.

    Quote Originally Posted by meowmeowkazoo View Post
    A wobble isn't necessarily a trait that should put you off. I find it rather endearing. You should choose whatever morph you like best, then buy it from a reputable breeder.
    Are you saying that you think it is cute when an animal has a neurological disorder? Spiders have involuntary muscle movement. Its similar to Parkensins. I don't think that is 'endearing'.

    Quote Originally Posted by kyser/wrx View Post
    Nearly all spiders showing this trait live normal, healthy lives. It seems that the trait is just something we have to live with to have this beautiful pattern in our collections.
    People never have to have a morph in their collections. I wouldn't care if spider ball pythons went 'extinct', or nobody bred them anymore.

    If I made a morph and knew it had problems, I wouldn't sell any. I have never had caramel bp, because it has kinks, spiders have muscle control problems, and I never had certain leopard geckos because they have problems. Enigmas are similar to spiders, and murphy patternless are known for infertality.
    People are never required to buy any certain morph. Even if I liked spider combos alot more I wouldn't buy one. Pretend it never existed.
    It's not that hard.

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    Your question is pretty much answered... But goodluck with your first Morph... And dont be scared by a little wobble if you pick a spider or a morph from a spider. I have a Bumble bee and a spider I kinda like the wobble... Gives them character, And doesnt effect their eatting, striking, ect...
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