I understand personal connection pet wise whatever. Forgive me if im wrong but this whole thread was about worth as in value $$$$$ and quality. Dollar for dollar if you are saying that those imported babies at petco are worth the 80 bucks people are spending. So to clear it up are we talking worth as in money or worth in some other way. All im saying is value wise your getting ripped off at those prices. Would you buy a pure bred dog from a pet store where you know they come from puppy mills or would you buy from a reputable breeder? Reptiles are no different. And this is why ive said in other threads i dont think pet stores should sell either. Thats just my oppinion. But again this thread was about market value and the balls at those stores are way below market value quality