yea i always give my bigger rats a real good spinning to daze them before tossing in tubs and never leave un attended for periods of time... a larger rat can do serious damage!!! ive had a snake snatch a rat and not get the head and rat tried biting snake in neck.. luckily i have long needle nose pliers i use when feeding some testy snakes i was able to keep rat mouth away from snake till it was dead...