Alright so I ended up getting 32qt bin at target, it was on sale and they didn't have anything between 16qt and the 32qt so I'll just make sure I get nice tight hides.

Since I didn't get any thumbs up on the zoo-med UTH, I'm now thinking about the Exoterra 8x8 heat mat.

I can't drop 100+ on a thermostat right now and I have the one everyone hates, the reptitherm or whatever, left over from my sisters red tail boa she had for a couple months. Again I know you've all given it bad reviews but if I get the hydrofarm could I use the other as a back up or just junk it?