line breeding, inbreeding, selective breeding

[piedplus]

If you had perfect genes, inbreeding would preserve that perfection. Trouble is you can't always tell. I would inbreed once to preserve some exceptional trait, but then I'd outcross in the next generation. I prefer line breeding when possible. I'd do that twice before an outcross.

[Salodin]

Is there any evidence of inbreeding increasing the chances of neurological diseases? Considering there isn't much else we can tell is wrong with a snake since there isn't much room for physical deformities on the body of a snake.

[onedroplet]

Is there any evidence of inbreeding increasing the chances of neurological diseases? Considering there isn't much else we can tell is wrong with a snake since there isn't much room for physical deformities on the body of a snake.

I would say yes it does increase the chance because inbreeding tends to reduce the number of genes available within the population. So you reduce the number of genes what are you left with? It's kind of like why breeders inbreed ... to get the best of the best right?? ... well the worst of the worst could happen too.

[Highline Reptiles South]

Is there any evidence of inbreeding increasing the chances of neurological diseases?

Absolutely not!

[onedroplet]

Absolutely not!

Stand by ....................

[onedroplet]

"The presents of neurological disorders in snakes bred from small or narrowing gene pools, is not conclusive evidence of deleterious effects from morph breeding, but it certainly is cause for concern.

Many disagree, stating that as these neurologically impaired animals still breed, feed and crap and so there is no reason to worry."
http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/forum...nbreeding.html

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Inbreeding snakes, breeding closely-related snakes together, increases the probability that any recessive traits hidden in the genome will be expressed. Some recessive traits are desirable, such as albinism, and some may be deleterious.
In general, snakes appear to be highly tolerant of inbreeding. There are a few examples where inbreeding has produced snakes with problems, but considering how much inbreeding has been done in the projects to propagate morphs, inbreeding appears to only rarely have any negative consequences.

http://www.vpi.com/mailbag/2006/11/i...em_to_consider

[Salodin]

Of course it's cause for concern, it's just that isn't real room for deformities other then neurological ones in an animal who has no limbs and can only breathe, eat, and poop. Also considering a snakes brain is simple as far as brains go (it only wants to breathe, eat, poop, and have sex) that there isn't much to go wrong; doesn't mean that something can't go wrong though.

I'm incredibly curious as to what the spider gene will look like after 4-5 pairings with each offspring mated off to another normal that is not related to each other in any way; not another morph (especially another recessive morph) just to make sure with a greater certainty that something like a spiders infamous neurological disorders can't be breed out.

Of course, scientifically, it'd technically take a whole lot of time and pairings to do so, but eh.

[onedroplet]

Scenerio ------->

Male ------- Female (Pair Alpha)
-----offspring------

Same Male (Alpha) ----- Different Female (Pair Bravo)
--------- offspring------------

Same Male (Alpha) ----- Different Female (Pair Charlie)
---------- offspring-----------

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What would you call it if you bred the offspring of:

Alpha with Bravo -------> offspring (Delta)
Bravo with Charlie ------> offspring (Echo)
Alpha with Charlie ------> offspring (Foxtrot)

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Lets take it another step....

breed:

Delta to Echo
Echo to Foxtrot
Delta to Foxtrot
and so on ...................