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baby spider ball keeps shaking its head this normall?
hey all
i have a 6 week old female spider ball python
she keeps shaking her head is this normall with baby`s??
any help will be gratefull
jay
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Re: baby spider ball keeps shaking its head this normall?
It's normal with the spider morph. The genetics that create the spider look also have some kind of influence with the nervous system. No one is exactly sure what the link is. It varies a lot between specimens....some show little-to-no outward signs...some spin their whole bodies with no ability to control it. Most fall somewhere between those two extremes. It can get better or worse as they mature. Some grow out of it...some get worse. Stress can make it more noticeable.
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Its not normal. Its a neurological disorder commonly passed down with spiders and any morph with spiders in them. It is something that will generally stay with the animal. Neuro problems dont go away. They can supress over time but also can get alot worse. I wouldnt breed the animal.
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It's common with the spiders and anything with the spider gene. I had a little female spider and she gets a little wobble when she eats. Some wobbles are worse than others, some get better or get worse as the animal grows up. There's still a lot to learn about it, but IMO as long as she eats and thrives it shouldn't be an issue at all.
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The "wobble",it comes with the spider..............nothing to really worry about though if you feed live you want to keep a closer eye on her because they can miss the strike all together and then the rat can bite back.
Mine only really shows his wobble during feeding time.
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Re: baby spider ball keeps shaking its head this normall?
 Originally Posted by snake lab
Its not normal. Its a neurological disorder commonly passed down with spiders and any morph with spiders in them. It is something that will generally stay with the animal. Neuro problems dont go away. They can supress over time but also can get alot worse. I wouldnt breed the animal.
I see from the snakes in your list that you have spiders in your collection. Are you not planning on breeding any of them?
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Re: baby spider ball keeps shaking its head this normall?
 Originally Posted by snake lab
Its not normal. Its a neurological disorder commonly passed down with spiders and any morph with spiders in them. It is something that will generally stay with the animal. Neuro problems dont go away. They can supress over time but also can get alot worse. I wouldnt breed the animal.
It's been shown that the "wobble" isn't necessarily genetic. Of course, all spider morphs have it, but the severity isn't inheritable. Really bad wobblers can throw out babies that don't wobble noticeably.
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I dont breed wobblers. If more people did selective breeding to try and out breed the flaw then we wouldnt have the issue as bad as we do today. The wobble has been passed down through mass breeding and inbreeding of animals with it therefore it got worse. I dont breed any spider cross that has wobbles and i dont throw wobblers either. You can outbreed the problem with sucess. Can you still get wobblers ? Yes there is still the risk but your odds deminish extensively when you breed only healthy non neuro animals.
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Re: baby spider ball keeps shaking its head this normall?
 Originally Posted by snake lab
I wouldnt breed the animal.
There has been not a single bit of evidence to support the idea that low-wobble spiders are genetically superior to high-wobble spiders. If you wouldn't breed a spider with an obvious wobble, then realistically you wouldn't want to be breeding any spiders at all.
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Low wobble is a wobble so off course your right. But no wobble is no wobble. I can see i will be public enemy once again on this thread. People, stop googlin and reading and get your hands dirty and get hands on experience. Or am i just one lucky son of a gun that doesnt pass wobblers? Hmmmmm i must be doing something right
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