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is there such morph?
all black ball with red eyes?
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Re: is there such morph?
 Originally Posted by Tidus10
all black ball with red eyes?
Not that I'm aware of and if I'm not mistaken I don't think it can exist. The only Ball Pythons that I'm aware of that have red eyes are albinos and the red is caused from the lack of melanin. Melanin is the pigment responsible for blacks and browns, so I'm not sure how you can breed a snake with no melanin in its eyes but with melanin in its skin.

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The red eyes with some melanin in the skin can be done.
http://newenglandreptile.com/nerd/in...lt-albino.html
It's combining red eyes with a solid black body that is difficult.
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i imagine it could be done through xanthic genes.. maybe a super black pastel x caramel albino or albino?
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1.10 Normal - Hades . Zues and company
1.0 Lesser - " "
1.0 66% het pied - Perses
1.0 Spider - Eros
1.0 Pastel YB - Helios
0.1 Pastel - Rhea
0.1 Pied
1.0 Pinstripe
Redtail Boa
1.0 Tiki
Bearded Dragon
1.0 Cronus
Crested Geckos
0.0.1 Red Tiger
0.0.1 Orange Dalmatian
0.0.1 Cream Harlequin partial pin
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Re: is there such morph?
 Originally Posted by Tidus10
i imagine it could be done through xanthic genes.. maybe a super black pastel x caramel albino or albino?
An Albino Super Black Pastel exists and it's white.......
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Re: is there such morph?
 Originally Posted by Tidus10
i imagine it could be done through xanthic genes.. maybe a super black pastel x caramel albino or albino?
Thats a big negatory, super black pastel albinos are solid white.... axanthic and albino make snow.... doesn't matter what you do to darken the snake to get the red eyes requires some form of albinism and that will eliminate the darker coloring. novel Idea but with the genetics we currently have thats all I think it will be an idea
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Re: is there such morph?
 Originally Posted by jjmitchell
Thats a big negatory, super black pastel albinos are solid white.... axanthic and albino make snow.... doesn't matter what you do to darken the snake to get the red eyes requires some form of albinism and that will eliminate the darker coloring. novel Idea but with the genetics we currently have thats all I think it will be an idea
The key phrase above is that with the current genetics we are aware of, we cannot at the moment make that animal. However, there are differences in skin cells and eye cells. This is apparent in the case of Leucistics. The pigment exists, but the leucophores (cells in the skin that hold pigment) do not, and hence the blue or black eyes. As Lawrence stated above, red eyes typically come from a lack of melanin. However, with my statement above about differing cells in the eyes and skin, I think that one day it may be possible to manipulate eye color and skin color seperately. But, not yet. Many things yet to be done or figigured out with Ball pythons and snakes/reptiles/amphibians in general.
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man those would be some crazy odds lol
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I don't see it being possible with any of the mutations we currently know about.
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Anything is possible in the world of photoshop... I just made one right now! 
I doubt it could exist in the real world really, at least not with ball pythons. Maybe if there is a snake with naturally red eyes, like how iguanas have those red eyes.
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