Awesome info, thanks so much! That really helps. I actually really like the LOOK of the pvc cages, but I hadn't thought about the doors ...

I was planning on doing tubs for the neo stage for sure and I was thinking of ordering some pieces of extruded acrylic for the perches because they look nice Someone on facebook told me about them. What size tub do you think I should start with for a small one? I think I have read 6 qt for neos, then 15 qt for a while.. I don't remember but I know I wrote it down and have the info somewhere.

I will look into trpnbills ... thanks