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    I couldn't tell you who they were, but there was a person who brought a tub of ASFs to the omaha nebraska shows for a couple years straight with gigantic males. Anybody been to it, or know who I'm talking about?

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    Re: Where are the giant ASF's?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    So it was just a BS generalization.

    Thanks for the clarification.
    BS? No.
    I have lots of male ASFs that reach 100+ grams, and my cinnamon females generally reach 100+ too.

    I was surprised that someone said (from that other thread) that ASFs max out at 60-70 grams. Because mine are rarely that small as adults.

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    Re: Where are the giant ASF's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhasputin View Post
    BS? No.
    I have lots of male ASFs that reach 100+ grams, and my cinnamon females generally reach 100+ too.

    I was surprised that someone said (from that other thread) that ASFs max out at 60-70 grams. Because mine are rarely that small as adults.
    I guess it's my fault for assuming what everyone meant by adult. I generally believe they are adults at 12 weeks. I have never had an ASF make it to one year old. I can't imagine having any older than a year.

    And just a sidenote - my males never get larger than my females, especially the breeders. But then again, none have made it to old age.

    Thanks for the feedback. I feel better knowing that my stock is average size.

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    Re: Where are the giant ASF's?

    I just weighed a 1.1 colony and the male is 76 grams and the female who's litter are almost weaned is 67. All of mine have wheels and seem to use them all day so they can't be all that fat

    100 gram must be a monster!

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    Re: Where are the giant ASF's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anatopism View Post
    I couldn't tell you who they were, but there was a person who brought a tub of ASFs to the omaha nebraska shows for a couple years straight with gigantic males. Anybody been to it, or know who I'm talking about?
    Was it the guy that bred the white ASF? Because I'm almost positive he got rid of all his stock... Liz from omahapied is the only omaha-ian that I know of that has any ASF now, but I think there are a couple others that do it small scale.

    And then becky and I have some here in Lincoln. I don't know of many others.

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    Re: Where are the giant ASF's?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    I guess it's my fault for assuming what everyone meant by adult. I generally believe they are adults at 12 weeks. I have never had an ASF make it to one year old. I can't imagine having any older than a year.

    And just a sidenote - my males never get larger than my females, especially the breeders. But then again, none have made it to old age.

    Thanks for the feedback. I feel better knowing that my stock is average size.
    Ah, I see.
    Yeah at 12 weeks they're nowhere near monsters. Like I said they'll usually blow up about 8-12 months into their lives.
    I've got some here that are approaching the 4 year mark. Age doesn't seem to have to do with it other than that one growth spurt they get between 8-12 months.

    When I responded to whomever said they maxed at 70, I was just saying no, they don't!
    But yes, it's an average size for the age group you are working with!

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    Re: Where are the giant ASF's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhasputin View Post
    BS? No.
    I have lots of male ASFs that reach 100+ grams, and my cinnamon females generally reach 100+ too.
    Same here.

    They'll get that big if you let them grow up long enough. I've also had girls that weren't bred stay around 70-ish grams though. I believe breeders get bigger than non breeders. Usually I feed them off (or freeze them) around 60-70g. And I've had old breeders get to 130-ish grams.
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    Re: Where are the giant ASF's?

    Speaking of keeping them around long enough, I'm guessing your stock doesn't develop those tumors at around nine months. I have seen a couple of the old females get them but I typically don't let them get that old.

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    Re: Where are the giant ASF's?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    Speaking of keeping them around long enough, I'm guessing your stock doesn't develop those tumors at around nine months. I have seen a couple of the old females get them but I typically don't let them get that old.
    Some do, some don't. I can't recall any big males getting them but the breeder females usually do to some extent. If its bad they get culled.
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    Re: Where are the giant ASF's?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnNJ View Post
    Speaking of keeping them around long enough, I'm guessing your stock doesn't develop those tumors at around nine months. I have seen a couple of the old females get them but I typically don't let them get that old.
    I've only had 2 with the papilomavirus. One male, and one female.

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