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    Where are the giant ASF's?

    Someone wrote here, a while ago, that they were regulary producing 120+ gram ASF's.

    My largest non-breeding adults do not go over 70g. The breeding males will get to 70-80g and the females go 80-90g. I have one 7 month old very pregnant female that hit 120g but that is only because she's full of babies.

    The adults that I feed are usually in the 60-70g range after several months.

    Where can I get some of these monster ASF's that I read about?

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    Never heard of them, maybe Mike C will chime in
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    Mine are all 60-70 grams tops

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    On one of the Threads i posted about them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhasputin View Post
    Max 60 grams!?!?

    My adult males weight at least twice that amount.
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...included/page2

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    Re: Where are the giant ASF's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Driver View Post
    On one of the Threads i posted about them.



    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...included/page2
    Thanks. So it's Rhasputin and spitzu that have the 100+g monsters. How do I get some of these fast growing fatties?

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    Out West is much nicer than here so that might have something to do with it. A 100 gram asf would be nice. Im going to have to weigh my breeders tomorrow

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    My adult male cinnamons, and my adult female cinnamons are the largest. 'Mr.Beefcake' was my most monstrous at about 130-140 in his prime. He's a bit smaller now.

    My agouti NEVER top 70 grams, don't know why.
    My BEW and Platinums also get very large, and they end up generally around 90-100 grams.


    This isn't a speedy process mind you, so for the feeder breeder it's pretty useless.
    If they're gonna get that big, it'll happen when they're about 1 year old, maybe a little less, maybe a little more.
    I also feed a very very good diet that i hand mix, so that might be part of what's going on.

    But just looking at my numbers, it also has to do with the colonies themselves, and even possibly colours.

    Here's a photo of 'Mr.Beefcake' next to a normal sized 60-70 gram ASF. Everything from his feet, to his head, to his entire BODY is just big.



    EDIT: For reference, this is the 'large' ASF on the ASF size chart, which weighs 52 grams. The female in my photo, is much larger than this rat. And Beefcake could probably cover that whole dollar bill no problem. lol
    Last edited by Rhasputin; 08-21-2011 at 12:42 PM.

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    Re: Where are the giant ASF's?

    So it was just a BS generalization.

    Thanks for the clarification.

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    Re: Where are the giant ASF's?

    my retired breeders usually are 100-140 grams,they are fed dye free dog food that has 21% protein and 8% fat.have fun!
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    Re: Where are the giant ASF's?

    Quote Originally Posted by twh View Post
    my retired breeders usually are 100-140 grams,they are fed dye free dog food that has 21% protein and 8% fat.have fun!
    I was asking about non-breeders. How old are your breeders when they retire?

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