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Re: Is there a price list out there for ball pythons that correct?
 Originally Posted by Jessica Loesch
I ALMOST went there. But decided not to. LOL
well I will
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Re: Is there a price list out there for ball pythons that correct?
 Originally Posted by Jessica Loesch
If you're going to sell a snake at a lowball price, you better do it with someone you know locally as a local deal or a completely private sale, because you will make a lot of big breeders angry. You can do it, but don't advertise it. As mentioned, these breeders paid a lot and have worked really hard and are not only trying to enjoy the hobby, but are trying to either break even or make a living off of doing this so that they can provide for their family with this as their full time job.
I think you would be pretty upset if you worked at a store and then another store opened up across the street that sold the same merch for 1/2 of the price and no one went to your store anymore and it had to shut down and you lose your job because they can't afford to keep it open anymore. See what I'm trying to say?
So like I said, if you want to sell cheap for fast sale go ahead, but do it in private with people you trust and let them know that you would appreciate this not being advertised either. IF they posted on fauna BOI saying oh get your cheap quality snakes here, this would still have a negative effect.
But again.. I guess this is just MY opinion.
I see what your saying but thats the world today in any buisness.look at wallmart and kmart.wallmart is cheaper and has more to offer vs kmart high priced and less to offer.even tho they both have same items.if the price is low the more you make vs the high price the less you sell.its called copitition.to bad they cant neuter snakes huh.small breeders have bills and family to feed too so at the end it boils down to the best looking and better price.breeders have to move snakes for room,bills,or what ever reason so at one point that snake they feel is worth alot to them they will eventualy lower the price to move it.greed only gets you left behind but a fair reasonable price will sell.like you said its a opinion.
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Why do you think Kmart is going out of business? Think of all the jobs being lost?
That's why a lot of people hate walmart.
I actually love it But it is different when it comes to things like snakes imo.
To argue your point about small breeders, you CAN sell your snakes for $50 under market value and sell them easily or you can do a private sale way below market price. Just show some respect to those that have put their whole lives into this.
And just so you know, I have a LOT of small breeder friends, and they do NOT have issues moving snakes at or very slightly below market value price.
I have no idea why you wouldn't WANT to get more out of your snake if you could.
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Re: Is there a price list out there for ball pythons that correct?
 Originally Posted by Jessica Loesch
Why do you think Kmart is going out of business? Think of all the jobs being lost?
That's why a lot of people hate walmart.
I actually love it  But it is different when it comes to things like snakes imo.
To argue your point about small breeders, you CAN sell your snakes for $50 under market value and sell them easily or you can do a private sale way below market price. Just show some respect to those that have put their whole lives into this.
And just so you know, I have a LOT of small breeder friends, and they do NOT have issues moving snakes at or very slightly below market value price.
I have no idea why you wouldn't WANT to get more out of your snake if you could.
i would sell my snakes for the avrage price that its going for maybe even 50 under but i wouldnt give them away.over where im at there are so many breeders so they end up going for much less.i picked up a 6oog female albino for 250.i picked up a breeder size pastel femal and a breeder size blond pastel for 100 each.to another breeder thats way cheap and they would be pissed but if that guy needed money to me i helped him feed his family or helped him pay some bills.i got all mine for way less then what they shouldve sold for.the economy isnt all that great right now so you have to do what you have to do to live and bring in money.people loose jobs every day and sad to say but thats life i cant worry about the next person i have to worry about me and my family well being so if i had to seel low so i can feed my family and keep bills paid you have to to do what it takes.it the life and world we live in. at the end of the day its a sale and a roof and meal on the table.what i noticed is that the bigger breeders some not all just want money.they dont care to help you on your breeding projects while smaller guys are more then glad to help you and are happy and eager to share knolage and a hand with your projects.my point is at the end of it all its a buisnes and run it the way it works for you. if you make money and not just breaking even then you must be doing something right vs the big guy still holding snakes for 3yrs and now asking for more then they asked for when they were babbies.move em fast make money have fun and live life.enjoy it..
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I mean honestly you can't lay down a price on a BP because, a pastel male jus 75$ at a couple of grams, but once he's ready to breed that pastel can go for a couple hundred, soo age also affects the price, don't forget that females do get bigger and will always cost more, and even though there's hundreds of morphs, not every single thing possible has been made yet, that means that prices go down, for exmp a bumble used to be ridiculously high but now its just 500-600$ I hope this helps
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Comb over the most popular classifieds sites, add up the prices for the morph you're interested in, knock off the highest and lowest on the list, and then average the remainders. There's your average price for the season. It sometimes goes down a little over the course of the season, and sometimes holds even--very rarely, it may go up slightly. This is likely to happen for females, or males of extremely high-end new morphs.
The industry is currently too disorganized to provide ranges or lists for people each season.
While it is true that often, you get what you pay for, it's not ALWAYS true. Here's what to watch out for:
Is the seller a really big name? Expect to pay more, regardless of the morph or quality, if you buy from them. You can get some of the best quality animals from these guys, but you could also pay too much for a lower-quality animal. (This isn't true of all the big breeders, but it is true of many--and they have no problem selling out each year).
Is the seller a reseller/retailer or flipper? They often charge more than a breeder would, for the same quality.
Is the seller brand new to the market, and trying to establish a reputation? You may be able to get your hands on some animals from a GREAT lineage, for a low price, by buying from them--but BE CAREFUL.
A price that's too low is also the hallmark of a scammer, or of someone new who got in over their head financially and is struggling to keep their animals properly. You don't necessarily want to buy from them, because their animals may not be healthy or in good condition.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For example, while there's no evidence that the amount of white in a pied is something heritable, high white pieds sell for more than low white pieds. For some reason, more people desire high white pieds than low white, which has driven up the price. If you want a low white pied because you like them better, or you're just looking for a quality stud for your collection and aren't worried about how much white the animal has, you'll get a better deal, and produce the same offspring as someone breeding a high white animal.
A very black cinnamon is something desired by some breeders, while others are breeding for a lighter, richer color in cinnamons, and leaving the black to the black pastels.
Some pastel jungle breeders want a bright neon yellow snake with bold black markings (lemon), while others want a rich yellow snake with TONS of blushing (Graziani style). Both extremes will sell high, but beware people selling pastels as 'lemon' or 'Graziani', when they're actually the offspring of low-end lemon pastel and a normal...and look like any other pastel that wasn't selectively bred for color. You could wind up paying too much for a 'lemon pastel' that came from lemon pastel lines, but isn't a lemon pastel.
Decide what appearance you're looking for, as well as the morph, because the price may vary depending on such details.
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Re: Is there a price list out there for ball pythons that correct?
 Originally Posted by FINGAZZ
i would sell my snakes for the avrage price that its going for maybe even 50 under but i wouldnt give them away.over where im at there are so many breeders so they end up going for much less.i picked up a 6oog female albino for 250.i picked up a breeder size pastel femal and a breeder size blond pastel for 100 each.to another breeder thats way cheap and they would be pissed but if that guy needed money to me i helped him feed his family or helped him pay some bills.i got all mine for way less then what they shouldve sold for.the economy isnt all that great right now so you have to do what you have to do to live and bring in money.people loose jobs every day and sad to say but thats life i cant worry about the next person i have to worry about me and my family well being so if i had to seel low so i can feed my family and keep bills paid you have to to do what it takes.it the life and world we live in. at the end of the day its a sale and a roof and meal on the table.what i noticed is that the bigger breeders some not all just want money.they dont care to help you on your breeding projects while smaller guys are more then glad to help you and are happy and eager to share knolage and a hand with your projects.my point is at the end of it all its a buisnes and run it the way it works for you. if you make money and not just breaking even then you must be doing something right vs the big guy still holding snakes for 3yrs and now asking for more then they asked for when they were babbies.move em fast make money have fun and live life.enjoy it..
All I'm saying is that there really is no reason to lowball price a snake unless you want to move it fast to make a buck, and there is nothing wrong doing that but it would be respectable to do it privately.
The snake that was sold for a low price you mentioned probably wasn't advertised on kingsnake or the forums. Craigslist postings shouldn't affect market prices.
And if you are trying to sell a snake to feed your family, well that is no different than a big breeder trying to sell a snake to make money. You both have the same objective. And there is NOTHING wrong with either thing, if you enjoy what you are doing and the snakes are healthy.
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Re: Is there a price list out there for ball pythons that correct?
 Originally Posted by JayyPastel24
I mean honestly you can't lay down a price on a BP because, a pastel male jus 75$ at a couple of grams, but once he's ready to breed that pastel can go for a couple hundred, soo age also affects the price, don't forget that females do get bigger and will always cost more, and even though there's hundreds of morphs, not every single thing possible has been made yet, that means that prices go down, for exmp a bumble used to be ridiculously high but now its just 500-600$ I hope this helps
i still dont get it.lol.call me stupid but lets say i can produce visual pieds and have a clutch of 6-8 hatch all pieds now they are priced from 900-1500 depending on how much white.now if thats all im producing 200+ every yr of that one morph why couldnt me or anyone else sell them for lets say 600-1200 ill still make money plus i have a bunch of other morphs laying eggs. if your making them then your a wholeseller so why mark it up as if your a retailer.the way i see it if i sold a snake for cheap i made money and i left room for the next person to make money to so there for im giving jobs instead of taking away.
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Re: Is there a price list out there for ball pythons that correct?
 Originally Posted by Jessica Loesch
All I'm saying is that there really is no reason to lowball price a snake unless you want to move it fast to make a buck, and there is nothing wrong doing that but it would be respectable to do it privately.
The snake that was sold for a low price you mentioned probably wasn't advertised on kingsnake or the forums. Craigslist postings shouldn't affect market prices.
And if you are trying to sell a snake to feed your family, well that is no different than a big breeder trying to sell a snake to make money. You both have the same objective. And there is NOTHING wrong with either thing, if you enjoy what you are doing and the snakes are healthy.
my point exactly.everyone still eats.
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