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Poor fella, hope he continues to heal up for you and fits in well with your household.
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It's good to know that he's got a good home.
I had a pet crow when I was a kid and they are awesome! They become affectionate towards their human keepers and learn all sorts of things, some you wish they hadn't. Ours learned to cuss somehow. (hanging out with my father when he worked on cars and tractors) He would hang out with us for hours and seemed to crave company.
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He is not a juvi for sure and he is full of piss and vinegar.
Hes definitly not used to being caged yet. I really kind of feel bad for him because he doesnt understand why hes in a house and caged. We let him out of his cage daily to explore his room and get some exercise. He doesnt seem to like us yet. But thats ok, he doesnt need to be tame to be loved.
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At least he has a chance with you.
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Re: Juju, the toughest Crow in the world!
 Originally Posted by mues155
We are NOT vets, we have no medical background but it was either do what we could for this bird or the infection would surely take his life.
So to make it short and less graphic we amputated behind his broken bones and cauterized the open skin. The bleeding was very minimal i think because the skin and meat were dying in that area already.
Not to seem rude or anything, but you amputated his wing YOURSELF and you have no medical background and are not a vet??? I'm glad he is doing better now, but you'll have to forgive me if I find this to be a little sketchy.
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Re: Juju, the toughest Crow in the world!
 Originally Posted by AK907
Not to seem rude or anything, but you amputated his wing YOURSELF and you have no medical background and are not a vet??? I'm glad he is doing better now, but you'll have to forgive me if I find this to be a little sketchy. 
I'm not a vet, but when I realized one of my Anoles a long time ago had a broken jaw and became very weak, I put him down.
IMO, quality of life outweighed the bird being put down. I don't have a problem with what they did, especially to see that the bird is doing well.
Good on you guys for rescuing him.
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Sometimes when you know exactly what and why a vet will do, the same thing can be done at home with the correct knowledge. Vets will say that if a rehab bird cannot fly then it has to be put down. Or if a hatchling ball is born with a defect like heart, or other organs outside of the body they must be put down. I would rather them try and to not have their minds made up already. Some will try and you'll be paying a kidney for them to do it. Sometimes even vets do the wrong thing or cannot/will not fix an animal. Sometimes bringing an animal to the vet is to the detriment of the animal.
Expertise can come on many levels. You obviously did something right for that little guy to be ok now. Great job!
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Re: Juju, the toughest Crow in the world!
 Originally Posted by AK907
Not to seem rude or anything, but you amputated his wing YOURSELF and you have no medical background and are not a vet??? I'm glad he is doing better now, but you'll have to forgive me if I find this to be a little sketchy. 
Well there were a few options for this bird...
1. Crow lives on its own with a broken wing on the ground until caught by a cat, run over by a car, or the infection eventually takes hold of him. He dies.
2. We try and help him, we amputate the wing and with our experience in doing minor surgeries to help various animals we feel confident and go through with it. He dies
3. We try and help him, we amputate the wing and with our experience in doing minor surgeries to help various animals we feel confident and go through with it. He lives.
3. is the story the crow has gone through. We saved his life, he is in a spare aviary i used to use for cockatiels. Of course compaired to the open wild and being free his quality of life has gone down a bit. But an intelligent creature such as a crow will be able to explore, play and learn from being a captive pet. IMO its better than being dead, or suffering a death of a broken wing.
Its cool if some people would say oh its nature you should have just left him alone. Thats fine for most people but if i can help then i will. And it was a success. So I feel good about it.
Last edited by mues155; 08-04-2011 at 05:18 PM.
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BIG kudos for helping out all those animals. Good on ya for saving that bird (and the others you've saved as well)
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