Cinnamon Pied

[JayyPastel24]

Piebalddd OVERRRRDOSEEE <3 I love it ! I wud try to make pewter pieds with that gorgeous little guy

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

Re-read my post and you will see I meant super cinni or super black pastel so if you wanted to put someone down make sure you are right. Also a cinni and black pastel combo also makes a black snake so it is possible that a cinni black pastel pied would look like the panda pied that Outback made. Thanks have a nice day. BTW Tim congrats on hatching him out.

I was not putting you down. I was correcting you. A cinny to a black pastel does not make a solid black snake. You would get cinny, black pastel, and normal. They are not the same morph and therefore are not compatible to form the super in that way. Do you always get so upset if someone says "wrong"? Sheesh. Have a nice day.

[DemmBalls]

SICK snake Tim!!! Congrats!

A cinny to a black pastel does not make a solid black snake. You would get cinny, black pastel, and normal. They are not the same morph and therefore are not compatible to form the super in that way.

Wow...Really? I was always under the impression that they would form a super together as well...Much like the Lesser/Butter BEL. Guess we learn something new every day.

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

SICK snake Tim!!! Congrats!



Wow...Really? I was always under the impression that they would form a super together as well...Much like the Lesser/Butter BEL. Guess we learn something new every day.

If they can it's certainly news to me.

[dr del]

Sorry Monica,

But they are alleles.

Cinny to black pastel has a 25% chance per egg of producing a solid dark snake.

I don't know how it would sit in the colour scale between a super cinny and a super black pastel (and for all I know it could be entirely varialble ) but it is a super as it cannot throw any normal offspring.


dr del

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

Huh. I didn't think that had been done. The color of each super is so different, including belly color, I wouldn't have thought it possible. Who proved this out?

[pinkeye714]

Now shed! I wanna see him glow! XD
I love the snake. So cute.

[dr del]

Hi,

I honestly don't know.

I know Ralph davis was calling them the same thing in 2002 when he was writing his proven/ unproven morph list.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...n-Black-Pastel

http://www.vmsherp.com/ViewBalls.htm (cinnamon description near the bottom of the page )

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...-Black-Pastels


dr del

[TheVipersHouse]

Wrong.. Thee Panda pied that Outback produced is a super black pastel pied.

Yes they were black pastels but hes got the Cinnamon version of the Panda Pied . blacks and cinnys basically the same mutation in most views and opinions

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

Ok I get what you're saying now. They work like the BEL complex but are still clearly different morphs. In my opinion, the problem with people not being able to tell them apart at times is the amount of low quality versions of these morphs out there.

I want to find out who actually did this black pastel to cinny breeding and got a solid though. Just to rule our heresy.

Anyway.. Sorry to derail.