Here is the female which was produced last year by the same sire that produced the 1.1 pair above this year. He produced this one with a different female than the one that was the mother to the above pair this year so I'm positive of the sire of these.

As you can see, she is pretty much identical to the pair from this year.

I am also in touch with the person who now owns said male who produces these normals. He is breeding him and will keep me updated on any normals he produces. I will then pass that info on to whoever takes these 2.